What’s the allure of the type 9

[tequilatibbs]

Firstly, I am glad it’s coming and happy to get the dlc.

But it almost seems like some would prefer it over the type 7.

Obviously aesthetics are subjective, but other than range and crew comfort it seems worse than type 7 (to my limited knowledge).

The most important being dive times and stealth, which the type 7 is superior.

Just curious

[Nafod]

The type IX was basically the German version of the fleet boat prominent in the pacific war. It had a much longer effective range and operated in theatres very far away from Germany's European ports. The top gross tonnage boats were the early type IX's in operation in 40-41.

Yes it has more range and a higher torpedo loadout than the VIIC but it also takes longer to submerge and is slower once under.

It plays a bit different. And was a welcome change in SHIII. I preferred to start with a II move to a VIIB. Grab a IX shortly before Dec 41 and switch back to the VIIC in late 42 mid 43.

That campaign provided alot of slightly different experiences.

[Hollands_glorie]

Messaggio originale di tequilatibbs:

Firstly, I am glad it’s coming and happy to get the dlc.

But it almost seems like some would prefer it over the type 7.

Obviously aesthetics are subjective, but other than range and crew comfort it seems worse than type 7 (to my limited knowledge).

The most important being dive times and stealth, which the type 7 is superior.

Just curious

Bigger and more range, though personally im more excited about the type xxi dlc and seeing what i can do with that earlier in the war

[Methlos]

I like the idea of the Type IX and think the range is a fun factor for it, going over to Eastern USA and even down into Caribbean to strike around the Panama Canal, Personally I'm really looking forward to the Type II, I'm a sucker for punishment and that little boat was always fun for me in SH to start my campaign. They really helped teach you what to do and not do.

[Werwolf]

I love the Type IX, personally. Much bigger boat, requires much more skill to handle properly, and you must be very very quick to get the big bish down in time to avoid an air attack, etc. I really hope they give us the ability to preflood the neutral buoyancy tanks. Beyond that, it allows for much more strategic gameplay with the much higher range and many more torpedoes, so you could go on a two month patrol quite easily. It was also a highly modifiable boat, with all manner of gadgets and gizmos and gun layouts available for it. Plus, it's just a great looking boat without the big saddle tanks the VII has. Sitting on the bridge of a type IX looking out over the long forward deck gives you a great sense of power and security (even though that's a bit misleading due to the much longer dive times, etc). I am really looking forward to being able to lurk off the US coast for weeks on end.

[wolf310ii]

Messaggio originale di Werwolf:

I really hope they give us the ability to preflood the neutral buoyancy tanks.

neutral buoyancy tanks dont exist, u-boats have negative buoyancy tanks but they have nothing to do with preflooding, they are always flooded on the surface and get blown out as soon as the u-boat is below the surface.
To dive faster, u-boats did open the vents on the bow ballast tank on alarm, befor the u-boat was ready to dive

[Werwolf]

Messaggio originale di wolf310ii:

Messaggio originale di Werwolf:

I really hope they give us the ability to preflood the neutral buoyancy tanks.

neutral buoyancy tanks dont exist, u-boats have negative buoyancy tanks but they have nothing to do with preflooding, they are always flooded on the surface and get blown out as soon as the u-boat is below the surface.
To dive faster, u-boats did open the vents on the bow ballast tank on alarm, befor the u-boat was ready to dive

Negative buoyancy tank is what I was thinking about. Seems I was wrong anyways. Cheers!

[PafunaMT]

More fuel and armament means more time on station, more opportunities to bag tonnage, etc., with fewer resupply runs.

[tequilatibbs]

So yes, range, range, range, and “muh big boat”.

However the type 7 is the better boat assuming you’re fighting in the Atlantic because extra torps don’t count for much if you’ve been exploded. And a bigger boat is a disadvantage in terms of stealth / survivability.

Type 7 can get under in 25 seconds
Type 9 can get under in 40 seconds

That’s a vast difference and easily the difference between life or death.

I get it; it would be fun hunting in easier waters like America in 42 or Africa where there are less escorts and therefore your chances of success and survival are dramatically increased, but in the Atlantic the type 7 was king. Donitz himself knew this and said so.

I get the enjoyment of “progression” from one boat to another because variety is nice.

Very excited for the new boats!

[Thahat]

Messaggio originale di tequilatibbs:

So yes, range, range, range, and “muh big boat”.

However the type 7 is the better boat assuming you’re fighting in the Atlantic because extra torps don’t count for much if you’ve been exploded. And a bigger boat is a disadvantage in terms of stealth / survivability.

Type 7 can get under in 25 seconds
Type 9 can get under in 40 seconds

That’s a vast difference and easily the difference between life or death.

I get it; it would be fun hunting in easier waters like America in 42 or Africa where there are less escorts and therefore your chances of success and survival are dramatically increased, but in the Atlantic the type 7 was king. Donitz himself knew this and said so.

I get the enjoyment of “progression” from one boat to another because variety is nice.

Very excited for the new boats!

on the one hand, yes those seconds can matter.
on the other hand, if its down to seconds... you messed up in a few previous steps XD.

muh big boat + all the experimental tech and more interesting surface guns.
stuff like actual radar dishes, not just recievers. double 37mm's etc.

[Sabre_One]

For me, the big allure of the type IX is range. My favorite patrols in SH3/GWX were long range missions in the type IX...Operation Drumbeat, stalking the Caribbean, etc.