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GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT
CPU. Intel Core i5-10400F
Installed on Samsung SSD 980 1TB
64 GB RAM (2400 MHz)
FPS limited to 60
Reaching somehow ''fine'' temps with 90-95 C in MAIN MENU (thanks to the winter season I guess), otherwise with closed case it's going to 100 C and jump even over while it's like sitting next to the jet engine. Also week ago I spray out the dust. Don't have this problem for example with DCS on higher settings which is well around 80C, ARMA3 70-80 depends what's going on. AAA games are better optimized so no problems there.
I understand it's probably hard to fix and so far from my searches this have been around for a while, but I still have hope it will be eventually addressed before release from EA state. Even when it's impacting just portion of the playerbase.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/494840/discussions/0/5277681174359174206/
If you are suffering from overheating, then that's an issue with your cooling, most likely. It does not matter if other games run fine. We had a guy in the German subforum with a similiar issue, his CPU got so hot that it shut down the PC. It was only in UBOAT so. In the end, it was his CPU cooler that was not strong enough.
Post your specs, the graphic settings you are using and if it is a PC or laptop.
Thanks for the link but I'm still little bit buffled. So the guy had problem with overheating only with one specific software. But issue was that his CPU cooler wasn't strong enough for it. So only conclusion I can draw from this is again 1. game is unreasonably demanding (optimization), 2. memory leak (other bugs) in either game or engine (out of devs reach). If it would be issue with his HW, it would be present on other games as well?
Don't take this in a wrong way I'm not here to start arguments or anything. I posted my specs here, if someone had some luck of solving this it would be great. If this is because my HW is not enough for the job, It's good too. I wouldn't refund even if I still could since I like supporting indie developers.
I just have to face facts myself, until I get an updated computer for a game like this under current development in 2023, even on lowered settings, this one is going to run hot on my 2013 rig (top of the line at its time).
On older games, on a Dawn of War kick circa 2008, that game barely moves the fan RPMs even on the highest graphic settings.
But that game, as well as some other games modders have worked on, have a different problem. High-rez texture packs and model redoes which increase polygon counts can cause out of memory errors on higher graphic settings because the engine is so old and even with large address aware fixes(LAA),to access more memory, errors about memory even on a 32gig ram with a 4gig graphic card will still appear in the log files stopping the game from loading during some phase of tha game.
So to get around this, reduce graphic settings.
The moral of this, even with updated hardware, there is a roll of the dice that some aspect of the game will not like ones hardware, but newer, higher end computers especially purchased in the year the game is being developed / released, should have far fewer of these problems with some aspect of performance.
i7-7700 3.6 ghz
16gb DDR4 2333 mhz
GTX 1070
New system:
AMD Ryzen 7 5700x
DDR4 32gb 3600 mhz
RTX 3070
On both systems with my frame limiter set to 60fps I was able to run the game on ultra settings and temps never climbed above 55°C. Yes, I noticed in your reply comment you mentioned you also were running a frame limiter set to 60fps and yet still had high temps. This made me wonder so I went to Google and typed in "RX 6600 XT high temps" and to my surprise I found reddit thread after reddit thread of 6600 XT owners asking the same thing:
Is this a normal temperature for RX 6600 XT?
Are these temps normal on an RX 6600 XT running Heaven Benchmark?
RX 6600 XT hotspot too hot?
So I guess AMD just sucks then? I'm kidding, goodness. But it's seems clear to me that this is par the course for AMD graphics cards. According to all these threads and comments I've been reading, the 6600 XT seems to NGAF about high temperatures, it actually seems to prefer them?
"Okay but I don't like that"
Well have you tried setting up a custom fan curve? I use MSI Afterburner to tune my fan curve so that my fans are whisper quiet until 70-80°C when they start to ramp up to around 100% RPM. Maybe you could try a custom fan curve like mine but other than that it looks like you purchased a GPU that likes to run hot without realizing it.
I'm familiar with junction tempetature running higher on this GPU. However it's really just UBOAT which is crossing some limits I'm familiar and comfortable with. I really don't think that running close to 100C with frame limiter on, in menu, should be fine no matter what GPU you have (that's the case with closed PC case). Especially if I compare it to DCS/ARMA3 reaching 85C on active scenarios (I can test other games if someone want's too).
I tried to toggle fan curve before but with little to much help.
On recommendation in this thread I dropped graphic settings by one level. I wasn't running ultra but the second highest (not running game in EN so not sure how it's called now), now on the second level the GPU tempetature dropped to 80-90C and it's oscillating between these two values but I can still hear the FANs very heavily compensating for that (never heard them to go this loud actually on AAA/AA games maybe except overdoing myself in DCS with ♥♥♥♥ ton of stuff going on in heavy scenario with a lot of moving parts). I tried to toggle OFF reflections or other usual troublemakers and off course there was some small adjustments but not enough to not hear fans over headphones.
This is all still menu after startup, I didn't even start the game to test this during gameplay so I'm not even sure what will happen there.
So can I play the game on 80-90C? Probably I can, however in the winter with open PC case and window, and with FANs putting their best. I off course can't test now how it's going to be in summer but let's say I should have more fans running and some cooling anyway during that season so I'm gonna leave that out of discussion.
And again I know my GPU getting higher than from other vendors. When Nividia reach 55-60, I get 75-85. But I'm really not comfortable with 95-100 with closed case simple as that.
Still It would be best to hear from developers if this is leak or problem with engine towards specific part of AMD HW's or there is some option left for them to optimize before leaving EA.
Edit: One thing I can go for is underclocking the GPU, I didn't tried this yet. I was experimenting with this before on other scenario but maybe my technical knowledge limitation kick in because the GPU became very unstable after that from what I remember.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2804502347
I've been involved in this community on Steam, the sub-Reddit and Discord since the game hit early access back in 2019 and I've never encountered anyone (Nvidia or AMD) who had temperatures as high as you're reporting when using a frame limiter correctly.
The second point is that it just doesn't make any sense to me from a technological standpoint. Why would a GPU reach three digit temperatures while only rendering 60 frames per second?
I ran some experiments. I toggled off my frame limiter and put MSI Afterburner and Windows Task Manager running on a second monitor. I loaded up the game and let it sitting on the main menu for about 5 minutes while monitoring my temperature, CPU usage and GPU usage.
GPU usage maxed out at 100% as expected when running without a frame limiter. CPU usage topped out around 30% and my highest average frame rate was around 77 FPS. My GPU temperature however never rose above 61° Celcius. The GPU fan was operating at around 83% to maintain this temperature. Running the same experiment with a 60 FPS frame limit saw the CPU rise to 20% usage and the GPU settle around 86% usage. GPU temperature was around 55°C with a fan speed of 65%. Ambient temperature in the room is 76ºF (25ºC)
I cannot comprehend how your GPU is hitting 100ºC with a 60 FPS frame limit. Out of curiosity what was your CPU and GPU usage according to task manager while sitting at the main menu of Uboat?
CPU is barely used it's max. 10-12. Task Manager: https://postimg.cc/yWdc8gQS
The settings menu: https://postimg.cc/t7B0FfNM
And yea, I can't comprehend it neither. However I noticed that tempetature and fans are increasing gradually while staying in the menu. Like for minute or two it's stays around 70-80 and after that it starts to increasing to over 90, it's not instant and I didn't toggled anything there.
My issue, was that the game was somehow overriding all my fan settings including the factory fan settings so my fan never would kick up.
I somehow got it to work, cant remember what all I had to do unfortunately but the forums here were not helpful despite the fact that its clearly an issue that multiple people are having. And it may be that no one really knows the answer, which is fine, but it needs to be acknowledged that there is an issue in the game potentially causing hardware damage.
A video game is incapable of making your hardware fans stop working and it cannot arbitrarily 'heat up' your PC. The only thing a video game can do is the same thing a stress test can do, which is max out your CPU, RAM or GPU.
That means if your PC overheated while playing a video game then your PC would also not pass a stress test, either. It's that simple. If someone has to remove the side panels from their computer case and prop a desk fan against the motherboard while playing a game? Then they would have had to do the same thing while performing a stress test. Software designed to help users figure out if they have a stable overclock or adequate cooling in their system.
I know because I used to be one such user many years ago when all I had was a garbage pre-built PC from Best Buy. I noticed my frames began to drop from a smooth 90+ down to 30 after about half an hour of playing Forza: Horizon 5. It took me longer than I like to admit to realize it was an overheating issue. Popping the panels off the sides and propping a desk fan against the motherboard and GPU solved that issue but it was a band-aid fix, clearly. The true solution wasn't to blame the game but to get more adequate cooling. Which I did by moving my hardware into a mid-tower ATX case with 8+ fan slots.
"They try to say its a user issue, but its not always. Unfortunately, if the problem does still exists it most likely will never be fixed as no one wants to admit there is an issue to begin with. --It's clearly an issue that multiple people are having"
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2944667564
The only time you have ever mentioned having an issue with your system getting warm was from a post from about a year ago where you explained you haven't upgraded your PC in over a decade. I7 970, 12gb of DDR3 RAM and a GTX 680 GPU. Nvidia officially discontinued support for that graphics card in October of 2021. You posted that you're still using that GPU as of Feb 2022. The only updates Nvidia is releasing for that card anymore are security updates. Had you made a post about it sooner I would've been able to tell you this, way back when. It took me 5 seconds to Google it.
Aside from a few trolls like Coffee Time (formerly Mr.Bear) and a few outliers who were too embarrassed to admit to user error, most of the posts I've responded to in regards to system overheat didn't even know what a frame limiter was or how it can benefit them and saw a drastic improvement upon setting up their system correctly. So when you say "It's clearly an issue multiple people are having", you're actually not wrong. It is an issue multiple people are having because multiple people know very little about their own PCs.
Just check my post history, it's all there. From users who bought a gaming laptop specifically designed to run at 95°C and they simply never Googled it before, to users with 3000 and 4000 series Nvidia cards who allow their games to run at 300+ frames per second when they only have monitors with a 60-165hz refresh rate.
And even in this very thread. The instant I type OP's Radeon RX 6600 XT into Google I get tons of search results saying that card is known to run hot which throws the "only this game" argument right out the window. So please, no conspiracy theories?
So you're not saying if it's your CPU or GPU overheating. I can't comment on AMD GPUs, but that's way too hot for an i5-10400F.
You've got a bad CPU cooler mount, if that's what it is. Or you're overclocking past what your cooler can handle. My i9-12900k doesn't get near that hot.
Even for DCS, 80C is more than what that CPU should be getting to.
Software is 100% capable of overriding other software. Happens all the time.
No conspiracy theories here, just making observations. On this forum alone Iv seen MANY other people have the same exact issues I had. And they are always met with the same response I got, must be your cooling cant be the game.
Look up my GTX680 founders edition. Bet you wont find any issues with this card running 100c as "normal". But it did with this game until I fixed it, or an update fixed it at this point its been so long I cant remember.
All I know, is my machine has run flawless for 10 years and this game has been the only game out of thousands that has had an issue.
Yes, in the world of computers, that Iv had decades of experience with, software most certainly does have the ability to override other software and most certainly can damage hardware in some cases.
Im just saying, its concerning that I keep seeing these posts and the issue keeps getting ignored or written off. It isnt helpful. Im not saying that there isnt people out there who maybe need to clean their PC once and a while, but I am saying that I know for a fact I have had the same issue and I know for a fact something in the game was causing my cards fan to not kick up with the temps. My issue actually led to alot of blue screens and complete lockups until I figured out it was my card overheating. Im just lucky I was able to figure it out before any real damage was done to my card, and I can tell you that the last time I did a deep cleaning on my card which had been after this happened, you can see burn marks on the heatsink. This was a year or so ago though, havent had an issue since.