Scapa Flow

[Ramseur]

I took the mission to Scapa Flow, went through the east channel and found LOTS of MTB's, destroyers etc but no capital vessels. Hit a mine on way out through the SW channel.
Next attempt could not find large ships so sank two destroyers and exited east.
Decided to go back in, got detected and blown to bits again.
What happens if you abort the mission please as I am fed up with waiting for night time and just creeping around Scapa for something that may not be there.
thanks in advance for replies and advice.

[Dingo]

If you about the mission you loose a rep point. That's it.

[Henry the Unfamiliar]

Been struggling with this mission since preview 10 or so as well. I've done it before, but now I never can complete "approach main anchorage"

[Sabre_One]

I am not quick to rush judgement, but I agree with the OP here. I am finally trying Scapa now and been playing "Where's Waldo?" for a bloody hour! There is no anchorage where the icon for the base is located. Just an empty cove. I see nothing in the northwest bay either. I'm just circling around burning battery power and oxygen while loosing time before daybreak.

When I get back to HQ, I'm going to slowly impale the intelligence officer who could tell where the minefields and sub nets are located through aerial reconnaissance, but couldn't properly mark the location of the damn port!

Navigating the shallow water and defenses is fun. Arriving at the port marker and finding nothing is rather annoying.

SUGGESTION TO DEVS: If the player unlocks the aerial reconnaissance research items, provide an accurate layout of the port and key locations on the map. Its a well assumed point that if aerial reconnaissance can reveal the location of underwater defenses, it could certainly provide accurate information about the surface level features of the harbor.

[Ramseur]

Just tried again. Got in, usual MTB swarms. Sunk an Hunt class (which was stupid), got caught in net with one dead sailor loads of damage with air and power running out. Surfaced when MTBs were 4km away and got over net, dived, repaired escaped eventually. Never so glad to reach open sea.
If I tell my men we are going back in they will kill me themselves.
What I do not understand is, I get in, get the "You are close" message, sink ships and the mission continues.

[Vesborg]

The mission is to sink the most prominent/best target to find. So look for a battleship.

I just completed Scapa Flow. I went in under darkness of course. Spotted around 30 ships in all. It was a mix between Corvettes and Destroyers and there it was... Battleship Nelson at anchor on the other side of all the other ships.
So went to seabed depth and running silent with forward 1. I only went to around periscope depth to check for ships once in a while. I slipped through the Corvettes and Destroyers. Sunk Nelson with 4 torpedoes (3 had been enough). I stayed close to Nelsons wreck until the search for me had stopped. Then slipped through the ships again.
Used the NE entrance both ways.

[Sabre_One]

Yeah, I double down on agreement with the OP. This mission has gone from suspenseful and fun to just annoying. I eventually just turned on "Detect All' to figure out where Royal Oak is and it only revealed the moving coastal boats and did something really odd: All the markers for minefields and nets were moved to different locations. And now I can't get them back to proper location. Restarted the game, nope. Deleted cache, temp files, and datasheets...nope. I am wondering if the buggered port defense locations are now baked into the save game file or what?

So I decided to just reload and search around til I find it or get detected. Then reload again and search around more. I can find a crapload of corvettes and DDs, But no Royal Oak. Nowhere. Not at the location of the green objective marker. No where.

Anyway, after wasting several hours on this mission, I'm calling this one quits and reinstalling the game to try to fix the buggered map markers. Maybe I'll revisit Scapa if/when the devs decide to change the location of markers and/or fix the missing ship. (Like the OP, I'm not sure if the ship even exists in Scapa.)

[Rabbit]

Originally posted by Ramseur:

I took the mission to Scapa Flow, went through the east channel and found LOTS of MTB's, destroyers etc but no capital vessels. Hit a mine on way out through the SW channel.
Next attempt could not find large ships so sank two destroyers and exited east.
Decided to go back in, got detected and blown to bits again.
What happens if you abort the mission please as I am fed up with waiting for night time and just creeping around Scapa for something that may not be there.
thanks in advance for replies and advice.

As dingo said just a rep point. you can add it back through a command prompt.
Reputation [Any Number] - Increase reputation to buy upgrade.

[Ramseur]

I am back in there and have searched everywhere and nothing except the usual and the wrecks from the 3 dds I sank in two earlier visits.
I shall go back to base, take the hit and move on but will do as Rabbit said and replace any reputation removed with a command prompt.

[Sabre_One]

Originally posted by Ramseur:

I am back in there and have searched everywhere and nothing except the usual and the wrecks from the 3 dds I sank in two earlier visits.
I shall go back to base, take the hit and move on but will do as Rabbit said and replace any reputation removed with a command prompt.

Me too.

As a question to those who have completed this mission more than once, is Nelson always in the same place or does the game randomize its location? If the same place, please post a screenshot of the map and location so I can verify if it exists or if there's some type of bug in our game. Maybe Ramseur and I are both blind or maybe we found a bug worth sending in by F11.

[HugsAndSnuggles]

Originally posted by Sabre_One:

As a question to those who have completed this mission more than once, is Nelson always in the same place or does the game randomize its location?

Last I did it was on U10. It was usually right on original marker position:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2531781082
However, the first time I did that mission (on U8, IIRC) it was near the shore to the NW, for whatever reason (marker only updated when I found it).

[Sabre_One]

Originally posted by HugsAndSnuggles:

Originally posted by Sabre_One:

As a question to those who have completed this mission more than once, is Nelson always in the same place or does the game randomize its location?

Last I did it was on U10. It was usually right on original marker position:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2531781082
However, the first time I did that mission (on U8, IIRC) it was near the shore to the NW, for whatever reason (marker only updated when I found it).

Thanks for taking the time to post that image!

I didn't see any green objective marker until I activated Detect All through the console. But when I activated Detect All, it blew the placement of the defense markers and maybe the green marker too. I cruised right through the green marker and there was nothing there.

I'm going to check if I have a save file that isn't buggered with the defense marker problem and see if anything's where indicated in your screenshot. I went right through that area and didn't see anything. Just a bunch of DDs and corvettes.

Funny, Uboat the Early Access Game reminds me a lot of a Russian girlfriend I had in my 20's. It goes something like this: "I love this game." "I hate this game." "I love this game." "I hate this game."...

[Sabre_One]

Okay, Nelson is there. I reloaded an earlier save from before the marker weirdness happened and the green marker was present at Nelson's location. So I figured the previous problem was player error, until I returned to the map after sinking Nelson and the markers were all offset again in a different location than the first time.

Something strange is going on with the port defense and objective markers in Scapa (or maybe with P12). I haven't seen this in any other port missions.

[claddah]

Found nothing at Scapa Flow....not even a rowboat....nothing on the rest of my patrol either. Did someone forget to include enemy ships/convoys?

[mcabrear]

I sunk the Nelson but I never found the Royal Oak. It's the mission accomplished or not?

[Red_Seven_]

Originally posted by mcabrear:

I sunk the Nelson but I never found the Royal Oak. It's the mission accomplished or not?

You most likely sunk a 'Nelson class' ship, which - also most likely - was the Royal Oak.

If you accomplished it should easily be recognizable by looking at your mission status. If it still says 'sink the royal oak' then you didn't sink it.
If it says 'escape/leave scapa flow's then you did it and... well... should leave scapa flow now.