End of the line technology wishlist

[kenberg]

All of this is technology that was in service or canceled or planned for use on uboats and submarines 1943-1946,
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Hull

Type VIIC/43 hull upgrade that lets the uboat safely dive to 325 meters and has six bow and four stern torpedo tubes,

Type IXD/42 hull upgrade,

Type XXI the first true submarine,

Type XXIC hull upgrade for the Type XXI with six bow and twelve stern torpedo tubes,

Type XXIX a more economical replacement for the expensive Type XXI,

http://www.hisutton.com/Uboat_XXIXH.html

http://www.uboataces.com/uboat-type-vii.shtml

https://ww2-weapons.com/u-boat-typ-xxi/
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Watertight warning apparatus for use at periscope depth

FuMB 35 Athos a passive radar warning and signal direction finder device that can pick up radar wavelengths down to as low as 2.5cm to warn the u-boat of allied aircraft,

FuMB 37 Leros a passive radar warning and signal direction finder device for covering from all allied radar wavelengths,

FuMB 35 or fumb 37 are located on the schnorchel head,

Flamingo II a passive infrared warning and direction finder device that sat on top of the athos and leros to provide warning in the case of allied aircraft using non radar methods,

Flamingo II also has a passive acoustic warning and direction finder device, And a active visual direction finder device,

FuMO 84 Berlin UII a active surface/air search radar with the plan position indicator,

FuG 247 Bremerhaven a periscope active fire control radar automatically sends target range to a modified torpedo fire control system and a J-scope radar display in the conning tower,

FuMO 391 Lessing a active radar that is capable of phase modulation and variable frequencies makeing it possible to avoid the direction finding methods of the day,

FuMO 391 Lessing is located on the schnorchel head,

For all ( but not the fumo 84 ) to be displayed on cathode ray tube oscilloscopes,

FuG 351 Korfu Z replaces the FuG 350 Naxos ZD on FuMB 35/37 for double the range and vastly improved sensitivity for the signal direction finder that it can be displayed on a plan position indicator,

FuG 351 Korfu Z is able to locate a aircraft's direction by its radar signals emissions to within 1 degree at up to 80km,

https://www.radartutorial.eu/12.scopes/sc09.en.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Luftwaffe_and_Kriegsmarine_Radar_Equipment_of_World_War_II#Passive_Search

https://uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,60501,60510#msg-60510

http://www.ubootwaffe.pl/en/u-boats/equipment/radar-of-german-u-boats

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=94024
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Radar frequency agility

FuG 247 Bremerhaven with frequency agility of 4 programmable radar wavelength settings by the radar operator from 7.5 millimeters up to 32 millimeters of radar wavelengths to avoid allied passive radar warning device's,

FuMO 84 Berlin UII with frequency agility of 12 programmable radar wavelength settings by the radar operator from 5 centimeters up to 15 centimeters of radar wavelengths to avoid allied passive radar warning device's,


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Warning apparatus for use on the surface

FuMO 31 Sophie a experimental uboat version of active surface/air search radar with a J-scope radar display with a advanced zoom in/out expanded scope feature,

FuMO 31 Sophie radar can detect the top of the mast of a flower class corvette out to 32 kilometers befor it falls in to the radar horizon shadow zone,

FuMO 31 Sophie has multiple frequency agility of two sets ( one set for amplitude modulation and the other set for frequency modulation ),

Of 28 programmable radar wavelength settings per set by the radar operator from 23 centimeters up to 186 centimeters of radar wavelengths,

To avoid allied passive radar warning device's and direction finding as well as radar jamming,

https://books.google.com/books?id=2NW-DAAAQBAJ&pg=PA293&lpg=PA293&dq=what+is+the+fumo+84+radar+wavelength&source=bl&ots=LMWmA9WF13&sig=ACfU3U0NAW1Jn27MmG3QMju0P0lZO6s12Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE7YbE8MDoAhWRg-AKHRObA-UQ6AEwBXoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=what%20is%20the%20fumo%2084%20radar%20wavelength&f=false

http://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/Radar/img/Radar-p111.2.jpg
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Weapons and systems

Zaunkonig II a advanced passive homing torpedo,

Spinne a wire guided torpedo with passive and active homing setting's,

Lerche a wire guided torpedo with low frequencies passive and active homing setting's,

Steinbarsch a torpedo powered by walter fuel,

Flachenabsuchender a basic program steering device for torpedoes,

Lageunabhangiger a more sophisticated program steering device for torpedoes,

Flak 43 a 37mm anti aircraft cannon,

3 cm MK 303 Flak a anti aircraft cannon that replaces the 37mm anti aircraft cannon,

3 cm MK 303 Flak can be fitted with a EZ 42 Gyro gunsight,

FuG 247 Bremerhaven is installed in the upper sail on a short retractable mast,

FuG 247 Bremerhaven anti aircraft fire control radar paired with 3 cm MK 303 Flak and the conning tower would have a compact fire control system with a G-scope radar display for controlled remotely gun laying,

Or one FuG 248 Eule installed on the fore and aft 3 cm MK 303 Flak would work similar to the automatic gun laying turret,

http://m.delphiforums.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=autogun&tid=5814

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_cm_MK_303_Flak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_display#C-Scope

http://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/Radar/img/Radar-p111.3.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_torpedoes_of_Germany
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Communication security

Enigma M4 the latest version of all the enigma machines,

Enigma M5 a five wheel rotor enigma machine planned for 1946,

Schlusselgerat 41 a six wheel rotor cipher machine superior to any enigma or hagelin cipher machines,

Schlusselgerat 41 use's four standard cipher wheels and two luckenfullerwalze programmable cipher wheels,
Or one umkehrwalze D rewirable reflector and two standard cipher wheels and two luckenfullerwalze programmable cipher wheels,

Umkehrwalze D a device that greatly improves the enigma m4 security,

Luckenfullerwalze a very advanced upgrade that drastically improved both the security of umkehrwalze d and the enigma m4,

Kurier system a burst transmission system that reduce transmission time from tens of seconds to milliseconds,

Short range communication devices like infrared / ultraviolet lamps and photophones or radios like lichtsprechgerat 80 and kleinfunksprecher dorette,

FuG 226 Neuling a identification friend or foe for all german radar,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schl%C3%BCsselger%C3%A4t_41

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftwaffe_radio_equipment_of_World_War_II#Early_Warning_Radar

https://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/enigma/timeline.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurier_system

https://www.kriegsfunker.com/radios/dorette3.php

http://bunkersite.com/bunkeroptik/optics/lichtsprech-80.php
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Sonar

Nibelung a active sonar for torpedo range finding with out the need for the periscope,

Nibelung active sonar is displayed on a plan position indicator,

Balkon great passive sonar is displayed on a cathode ray tube oscilloscope,
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Under water

Deploying divers from torpedo tubes or other ways at periscope depth or deeper,

Sieglinde a device that very accurately mimics the acoustic signature of a submerged uboat moving at 11 km/h.

Siegmund a device that emits deafening explosions blacking out all type's of listening gear so uboats can make a getaway,

http://www.uboataces.com/sonar-decoys.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieglinde_(decoy)
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Absorbing material

Alberich II a improved sound absorbing material for the hull,

Tarnmatte II a improved radar absorbing material for the snorkel mast and head,

Jaumann a advanced radar absorbing material for the snorkel head,

http://www.uboataces.com/sonar-coating.shtml

https://amp.rokket.biz/docs/an_illustrated_guide_to_uboat_research.pdf

[kenberg]

New update

FuMO 84 Berlin UII is now a surface/air search radar

FuG 247 Bremerhaven periscope radar for torpedo fire control system

FuG 247 Bremerhaven & FuG 248 Eule replaces the FuG 245 Bremen O

[Kim Jong-Jit$]

This would be really awesome, have they mentioned if you can switch subs eventually?

[El Rushbo]

Originally posted by AbhChallenger:

Of course. To balance this requires the campaign to react. The allies were already air dropping homing torpedoes by late war. I would say by 1945 the US would be in full panic mode over the XXI. Perhaps even converting the Spruce Goose or the JRM Mars into an ultra long range anti-submarine platform.

The Allies were aware of the type XXI for some time. They were concerned about it's potential deployment. However, many were destroyed by bombing during construction and the few that did become operational came in too late to change anything in the war.

[CloudPiercer]

These are pretty detailed and good suggestions +1

[AbhChallenger]

Originally posted by El Rushbo:

Originally posted by AbhChallenger:

Of course. To balance this requires the campaign to react. The allies were already air dropping homing torpedoes by late war. I would say by 1945 the US would be in full panic mode over the XXI. Perhaps even converting the Spruce Goose or the JRM Mars into an ultra long range anti-submarine platform.

The Allies were aware of the type XXI for some time. They were concerned about it's potential deployment. However, many were destroyed by bombing during construction and the few that did become operational came in too late to change anything in the war.

Please read the whole post I made. I specifically mention the actions of the player affecting the ability of the allies to reduce the production of advanced ships and equipment towards the last years of the war.

If you have played "Cold Waters" the system I described is similar to that.

[wolf310ii]

I doubt the Lichtsprechgerät 80 would have any use on a u-boat

[kenberg]

New schlusselgerat 41 is now in communication security

[thomastopey]

Could have a few more things add into the wishlist
FA-330 for IXDs to assist spotting
a Walther boat that similier to the XXIs (that means we can spend more credits on hydroperoxides lol)
FaT torpedos can also be considered for large convoys
FuMO 29,30 and 61 for surface targets
FuMB 26 29 and 35 for rader warning
a rush version of XXI for start and better for eilte like tigers and PZ. IVs
guess those are the tech tree for the whole Uboat game

[El Rushbo]

Originally posted by thomastopey:

a Walther boat that similier to the XXIs (that means we can spend more credits on hydroperoxides lol)

You mean the type XVIII?

[defumak]

+1

[thomastopey]

Originally posted by El Rushbo:

Originally posted by thomastopey:

a Walther boat that similier to the XXIs (that means we can spend more credits on hydroperoxides lol)

You mean the type XVIII?

ah yes i forgot the exact type of that boat btw

[thomastopey]

have some digging on torpedos and after TV G7es the next one could be TVIII G7ut as they are going to deploy right before germany surrunder as well as TXI G7es which is a improved TV G7es but not sure is TXI is going to the u boats though

[kenberg]

New update
Added
Radar frequency agility
Warning apparatus for use on the surface ( with link's )

[kenberg]

In radar the horizontal polarization and (vertical polarization) matter's less then the grazing angle's,

Any radar can be used to measure the range to a target and it's direction determination as long as it can detect the target at the given range and (height) in side the radar's horizon,

As It doe's not need to be directly linked up to the central fire control room like most highly sophisticated dedicated purpose built advanced fire control radar's are,

To be used for the ranging of target's and there direction determination a primitive radar from 1939 is almost as good as a highly sophisticated dedicated purpose built advanced fire control radar from 1945 for that purpose,

Primitive radar's in 1939 had a range accuracy that was accurate to within 100-260 meter's or 50-130 +/- meter's of the true range of the target with a direction determination of 1-4 degree's or 0.5-2 +/- degree's of it's true direction determination,

This was good enough to straddle a target vessel on the first salvo but you still needed target speed and target course as well as sea and weather condition's and any other atmospheric interference's to complete the firing track solution,

And if you'r crew down in the central fire control room can do all that at night then you'r vessel has radar assisted and or radar directed blindfire capacity,

Highly sophisticated dedicated purpose built advanced fire control radar's of 1945 had a range accuracy that was accurate to within 15-25 meter's or 7.5-12.5 +/- meter's of the true range of the target,

With a direction determination of 0.1-0.3 degree's or 0.05-0.15 +/- degree's of it's true direction determination,
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The battlecruiser scharnhorst's 1939 primitive (fumo 22) radar detected the mast top of (hms gloriou's) at a range of (forty five?) kilometer's as the top of the mast came out of the radar shadow zone and in to the radar's horizon,

Even though the (fumo 22) radar's cathode ray tube oscilloscope's (a scope) and (j scope) display's were calibrated usually for a range cut off of twenty five kilometer's,

In operation hailstone the radar equipped battleship's iowa-new jersey fired from as far away as (35660?) meter's at the japanese destroyer nowaki untill the top of her mast was in the radar shadow zone,

In the battle of the north cape the battleship hms duke of york's radar detected the mast top of the battlecruiser scharnhorst at a range of (forty one and a half) kilometer's all well in a snow storm at night,

At (7:02 am) on the 7th of december 1941 the opana radar site's (scr 270) radar detected the incomeing japanese first wave at a range of (two hundred twelve) kilometer's,

In the battle of surigao strait the radar equipped battleship west virginia detected the mast top of battleship yamashiro at a range of forty kilometer's as the top of the mast came out of the radar shadow zone and in to the radar's horizon on a moonles's pitch black night,
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Two fletcher class destroyer's with there radar's antenna transceiver mounted at a height of (22.86) meter's above the waterline would be able to detect the other vessel's radar antenna transceiver mounted on the top of the mast from (thirty nine) kilometer's in term's of radar horizon,

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/USS_Waller_%28DD-466%29_off_New_York_City_in_October_1942.jpg

http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/images/F/Fletcher_class__schematic_full.jpg

It doe's not matter if the land-sea-air radar is from 1939 or 1945 all can detect a vessel-vessel's and or aircraft-aircraft's as long as they are in side the radar's horizon or a small part of them are still in the radar's horizon,
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For a german surfaced type VII radar like the (fumo 29) it's radar horizon is (7500) meter's or (3.313) meter's above sea level,

Were as the (fumo 30) is a meter higher giveing it a radar horizon of (8560) meter's,

http://www.ubootwaffe.pl/en/u-boats/equipment/radar-of-german-u-boats

A surfaced type VII with (fumo 30) would detect the top of the (twenty three) meter tall mast of the liberty class from (twenty eight) kilometer's range,

Or a surfaced type XXI with a radar's horizon of (ten) kilometer's with the radar (5.883) meter's above sea level,

I hope the (dev's) of uboat accurately model's german uboat radar to a vessel's mast top in the radar horizon.