Better logistics.

[Oerbie81]

Hello,

I have the impression i loose a lot of time for resupplying my food.
Is it not possible to have more food stored at the harbours, as for example fuel?
13 - 18 hours for a few potatoes, fish and some vegetables seems a bloody long time, and it is a boring thing to repeat till you have your storage filled up.

Keep up the good work.

Oerbie

[Black Dog]

I agree. Some things should be a given in port. And with the amount of different foods, it should be possible to have more than just a free of each.

Maybe (in the far future) the different foods could also have different effects (fruit for better mood, Brad to keep sailors fed, vegetables to keep them healthy...

[El Rushbo]

I'd like to see limitations. Generally on submarines both back then and present day, fresh fruits and vegetables only lasted about a week. Obviously perishables would be consumed first, while canned and dried goods would be consumed later. German U-boats did not have refrigerators on board either. That further affected food storage. These factors made diets rather limited in the U-boat service. (The type XXI was the first one to have a refrigerator on board I believe)

[Peregrine]

I've been after this for quite a while. It's completely unreasonable that the supply situation is so poor, especially for the U96 campaign. Please post in the B127 Preview Pinned thread to show support for increased supplies at ports.

[athenian]

The food situation is stressful. I leave with 400 units and I can barely make it back. But that's all I can collect unless I spend weeks at port re-supplying small amounts when they become available.

[LetGodSortThemOut]

If you buy up all the food you can first thing when getting back to port and let it load on the boat, then start buying torpedoes and letting them load, then go back to food tab there will be more. You can very quickly get your food slots filled to the 100 mark each. Just don't buy all your Torps at once and keep going back to Food before buying more Torps until you're full of both. It only takes a couple days at port and you'd be spending that much game time there anyways for all the Torps to load.

I always send my crew on vacation anyways as well, more food when back from that as well. You don't run in to Morale problems very often with frequent vacations and you can research tech much quicker with Bavarian and Eagles Nest vacays. I've never had a problem with food supplies. After 2 missions I'm usually flush with food and never run out.


I agree with different effects for food, that'd be a cool dynamic that if you don't have fruit/veggies for awhile scurvy becomes on issue sort of like the Help Ally mission that uses that as the story reason.

Perishable food would also be cool and add to the difficulty of management and balances. It's fairly easy at the moment.

[LetGodSortThemOut]

Originally posted by athenian:

The food situation is stressful. I leave with 400 units and I can barely make it back. But that's all I can collect unless I spend weeks at port re-supplying small amounts when they become available.

How much are you stocking at once in the galley? I usually only fill 3 of the galley slots with 20 each of those 3 diff items. Im not sure but it seems like the more you stock in the galley the quicker it goes. My patrols are never very long though, 20 days or more would be a pretty long one but I don't spend a lot of time sight seeing or exploring either I suppose and I TC the whole way from port to patrol zone and back once complete so not sure if food consumption skews in TC or stays true.

[PaKeTeMaN]

if you not like it create a mod yourself......we prefer this way to make you stay some days in port to refill things than simply arrive port and see a mesage saying 4 days to refill supplyes.....

[Peregrine]

Originally posted by LetGodSortThemOut:

If you buy up all the food you can first thing when getting back to port and let it load on the boat, then start buying torpedoes and letting them load, then go back to food tab there will be more. You can very quickly get your food slots filled to the 100 mark each. Just don't buy all your Torps at once and keep going back to Food before buying more Torps until you're full of both. It only takes a couple days at port and you'd be spending that much game time there anyways for all the Torps to load.

That's the approach I use.

I'll load a few torps at a time (enough of whatever I need for a day, such as ammunition for the deck and anti aircraft guns, and other equipment) and then buy food as it becomes available, however, my issue with the way it is now, is two fold.

One, there are far too few provisions in the warehouse. WE ARE AT WAR and in 1940, the German Navy was well supplied, why are we acting like it's the closing days of a seige and we're on the losing side?

Two, onload times take far too long for the tasks being completed. It does NOT take 15 minutes to load 1 unit of supply, and 30 for a second unit, or 8 hours per fish in the case of torpedoes. While I can partly let that slide because this is a game, I also somewhat can't due to their goal of being realistic. It doesn't take that long to load several units of supply or torpedoes.

[DaddyJokee]

I mean, even the time it takes to load the food is crazy. I was tipping off my fruit supply and it took 4 hours to load 6 fruit? Like, assuming 6 is a number of crates, wth? I work as a package handler at Fedex and we move 20000 packages in about 3 hours, some small, some big, some huge. Sure, we have conveyor belts, but like, people still need to pick them up, carry them to the belt, and then pick them up off the belt and load them up in a trailer. So don't tell me it takes these guys 4 hours to carry 6 boxes of fruit from the warehouse ON SITE to the boat parked 30 meters away, then hand them down the emergency hatch to the dude below where another guy picks it up and moves it to the storage room. At best a half an hour job, at worst an hour.

[LetGodSortThemOut]

There's other warehouses at each parking spot for the npc uboats. It's not like U96 is the only boat parking in front of the warehouse that supplies it. Maybe all of the items aren't even in that particular little shack, they're in the bigger warehouses. All of the fruit in the Kriegs displosal isn't just sitting there waiting for you to pull up and buy it. So maybe its moving more than 30m.

There's protocol, paper work and bureaucracy to everything, especially the WWII german military. Record keeping was after all their own ultimate undoing later.

You don't see the the guy in the game who has to write down the serial numbers of the torpedoes before and after they are moved. You don't see the crane that has to carefully lift and move a few thousand pound explosive device with it's own propulsion system. 1 unit of fruit weighs how much? So it's a case of whatever the item may be. Maybe it has to be unpackaged. It has to be logged. It's not just a matter of going to the grocery store, paying, driving home and putting it in your fridge.

If we want to pick everything apart, its not like the skipper bought food supply and torps and 13.2mm rounds with money he earned from the tonnage he just sunk last patrol. Some things are more in depth than one would initially realize and some things are for the sake of game play.