Nelson Battleship "Revenge" down...

[danbey]

Hello, skippers!
I dont know if it is common for you to sink battleships, but for me it was the first time to meet such a giant. . As long as Brits had had only 2 Nelson class battleships, it was a big luck for me not only to locate, but to attack it. Drowning of that monster was out of my plans. lol
I have already sank around 10 airplane carriers since I ve started playing this game, so theres not so much surprise to meet serious forces. But this...
Ok, let me introduce you its majesty... The flagship of the Royal War Fleet - The Nelson class battleship - "Revenge"
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965394346
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965393460

Just look again, its perfect, but unfortunatelly in this game it visually looks not as massive as it should. Just wonder - 33 000 tons... In a free cam it looks just a bit larger than Liberty. This is a question to devs if they can make it looking as large as it had really been in reality.
All right, the year - 1944, the mission - 'Attack on Portsmuth port"
Terget locked - please check that date on the screenshot
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965408830
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965408969

According to historical data, it appears that up to 1945 January, Nelson class battleship "Nelson" had been out of service on a repair in Philadelphia, USA. Since January 1945 and up to April 1945 it had been on a repair in England, but I failed to learn the exact place. (could be Portsmuth)

By the same time the Nelson class battleship "Rodney" had been docked at Scapa Flow with 60% crew reduced, operating as a stationary flagship of the Royal Fleet.

As you understand in reality there was no "Revenge" ship classified as Nelson battleship but it looks like I have attacked "Rodney" being inactive on a repair at Portsmuth. My respect to devs for keeping the historical approximatyvity.

Now back to our game
My mission was to sink 2 ships, you know this.
Of course I was not such a progmatic to sink 2 corvettes and to go home.
Of course I decided to attack the docked Nelson.
It has taken over 10 torpedoea to make it drowning. Also having in my mind the idea that I need to sink one more ship to accomplish the mission, I decided to keep 3 torpedoes for that option
Here i must say, that I use only manual targetting, with pre warmed torpedoes, so I confirm 100% hit of 10+ torpedoes on Nelson. - not enough.
I had to surface my Uboat and to switch to the deck gun. It has taken me a half of the shells that my uboat had with it. Its like attackin a mountain when you cant be sure if mountain really feels your shots.
Anyway, Nelson had sunk...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965464711

Nelson looks ok on a screenshot, but check its health bar. In a periscope view it looked half drowned in shallow waters, laying on its left side. There is still some work for devs to do.


Of course I had been locked by enemy ships after my Uboat surfaced.
3 torpedoes, 20+ warships and 1 chance... lol... And save... )))

I have managed to hit a destroyer rushing on me at a full speed. I am really proud of this shot. Destroyer's speed around 30+ kmh and a distance of 2 km, T1 torpedo, manual targetting... Not enough - only abot 50% damage. I decided to attack a bit more easier target with my last 2 torps - the docked corvette. I shoot 2 in a row. 2 hits, the corvette fell apart, mission accomplished. This is one more question to devs why there were docked corvetttes in a situation when a battleships had just been attacked.
To get away from that mess was a separate deal, but I survived.
If you are interested in rewards for this kind of missions, it was huge. All officers have got their crosses, while the skipper was awarded with a Knight's Cross in Oak leaves. All officers have unlocked 5lvl skills.

[tr0mp]

I encountered one in mid sea protected by destroyers - fired 4 torpedo's and it just sailed away with minimal damage. As just one U boat we are not supposed to sink them I guess :-)

[ждун]

yea actually sinking a battle ship by a single uboat, kind of mission impossible. I wouldn't even try. Congrats that it worked for you. 10 eels sounds about realistic, however in reality they wouldn't let you even come in range. The destroyers and corvetes are somehow weak in uboat, i feel. Not realy a challange. The real ones were much smarter and were putting a lot more stress on subs and they were quite successfull at catching them at latest from 1942 on. You say 30+ escorts jumped on you, in reality you would never survive that especially in shallow waters.

[Starkwolf]

Originally posted by ждун:

yea actually sinking a battle ship by a single uboat, kind of mission impossible. I wouldn't even try. Congrats that it worked for you. 10 eels sounds about realistic, however in reality they wouldn't let you even come in range. The destroyers and corvetes are somehow weak in uboat, i feel. Not realy a challange. The real ones were much smarter and were putting a lot more stress on subs and they were quite successfull at catching them at latest from 1942 on. You say 30+ escorts jumped on you, in reality you would never survive that especially in shallow waters.

I mean, of the few British BBs sunk at all during the war, Royal Oak was sunk by Uboat, iirc in shallow waters. British didn't even know what hit it for the longest time.According to record, sunk with 4 torpedos (that hit and detonated). Correct me if I am wrong about any of this. It is plausible, after all it happened. But yeah, should be a pretty insane accomplishment. And the number of torpedos it takes should probably have very high variability. A hit could set off the magazine, or it could do virtually nothing.

Afaik, U-47 was solo.

[Wyzard]

in order to sink a battle ship you need to plug its engines area , get as close as possible an just unload on to the engine

[Razors_Edge1 || TTV]

Originally posted by danbey:

Hello, skippers!
I dont know if it is common for you to sink battleships, but for me it was the first time to meet such a giant. . As long as Brits had had only 2 Nelson class battleships, it was a big luck for me not only to locate, but to attack it. Drowning of that monster was out of my plans. lol
I have already sank around 10 airplane carriers since I ve started playing this game, so theres not so much surprise to meet serious forces. But this...
Ok, let me introduce you its majesty... The flagship of the Royal War Fleet - The Nelson class battleship - "Revenge"
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965394346
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785249361675976591/CF9770E96AF6AE8D13D08DBDB58DA6971F3D13A6/

Just look again, its perfect, but unfortunatelly in this game it visually looks not as massive as it should. Just wonder - 33 000 tons... In a free cam it looks just a bit larger than Liberty. This is a question to devs if they can make it looking as large as it had really been in reality.
All right, the year - 1944, the mission - 'Attack on Portsmuth port"
Terget locked - please check that date on the screenshot
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785249361676044140/FB7CF6C0EA760AB223E9B3E28F8FFAD191A20B9F/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785249361676044140/FB7CF6C0EA760AB223E9B3E28F8FFAD191A20B9F/
According to historical data, it appears that up to 1945 January, Nelson class battleship "Nelson" had been out of service on a repair in Philadelphia, USA. Since January 1945 and up to April 1945 it had been on a repair in England, but I failed to learn the exact place. (could be Portsmuth)

By the same time the Nelson class battleship "Rodney" had been docked at Scapa Flow with 60% crew reduced, operating as a stationary flagship of the Royal Fleet.

As you understand in reality there was no "Revenge" ship classified as Nelson battleship but it looks like I have attacked "Rodney" being inactive on a repair at Portsmuth. My respect to devs for keeping the historical approximatyvity.

Now back to our game
My mission was to sink 2 ships, you know this.
Of course I was not such a progmatic to sink 2 corvettes and to go home.
Of course I decided to attack the docked Nelson.
It has taken over 10 torpedoea to make it drowning. Also having in my mind the idea that I need to sink one more ship to accomplish the mission, I decided to keep 3 torpedoes for that option
Here i must say, that I use only manual targetting, with pre warmed torpedoes, so I confirm 100% hit of 10+ torpedoes on Nelson. - not enough.
I had to surface my Uboat and to switch to the deck gun. It has taken me a half of the shells that my uboat had with it. Its like attackin a mountain when you cant be sure if mountain really feels your shots.
Anyway, Nelson had sunk...

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785249361676297484/813191D6EC9DEDF228DB84A6DE076559BC0F04EF/


Nelson looks ok on a screenshot, but check its health bar. In a periscope view it looked half drowned in shallow waters, laying on its left side. There is still some work for devs to do.


Of course I had been locked by enemy ships after my Uboat surfaced.
3 torpedoes, 20+ warships and 1 chance... lol... And save... )))

I have managed to hit a destroyer rushing on me at a full speed. I am really proud of this shot. Destroyer's speed around 30+ kmh and a distance of 2 km, T1 torpedo, manual targetting... Not enough - only abot 50% damage. I decided to attack a bit more easier target with my last 2 torps - the docked corvette. I shoot 2 in a row. 2 hits, the corvette fell apart, mission accomplished. This is one more question to devs why there were docked corvetttes in a situation when a battleships had just been attacked.
To get away from that mess was a separate deal, but I survived.
If you are interested in rewards for this kind of missions, it was huge. All officers have got their crosses, while the skipper was awarded with a Knight's Cross in Oak leaves. All officers have unlocked 5lvl skills.

F5 Trops. I caught the Nelson with the 3xF5 it took out the engines then I used F3's. It took two trips back to port to reload but I was able to sink it finally.
Its crew abandon the ship of course so it was right where I left it.
I agree with everyone above though. One Uboat should'nt have enough firepower to sink that ship, and its scale is wrong in the game. It is a massive size compared to the asset they're using in the game.
In all it was a fun half a day of playtime.

[danbey]

Originally posted by Wyzard:

in order to sink a battle ship you need to plug its engines area , get as close as possible an just unload on to the engine

Nah. The only thing you can achieve with these actions is to stop it by destroying rotors. The engines are secure inside an armor body that could resist torpedoes. Nelson's bow and stern were weak places indeed, there was no armor at all, But hitting these places would only lead to massive flood in sections and not to a sinking of the ship itself.

[Starkwolf]

F5 Trops. I caught the Nelson with the 3xF5 it took out the engines then I used F3's. It took two trips back to port to reload but I was able to sink it finally.
Its crew abandon the ship of course so it was right where I left it.
I agree with everyone above though. One Uboat should'nt have enough firepower to sink that ship, and its scale is wrong in the game. It is a massive size compared to the asset they're using in the game.
In all it was a fun half a day of playtime.

I mean, if theoretically U-47 and the first salvo had all hit and detonated, they wouldn't have needed to go back to port. But that's the thing, usually you are going to miss some and have some duds. But we do have a real world example where the number of torpedos that detonated on the Ark Royal is <= how many the sub carried. So, plausibly,, a sub should be able to sink a battleship similar to the Ark Royal in one go, if, if things somehow go perfectly right and the torpedoes hit critical areas and they all detonate no misses. But it should be very, very rare. U-47 did have to go back for more because of misses and duds.

[Razors_Edge1 || TTV]

Originally posted by starkwolf:

F5 Trops. I caught the Nelson with the 3xF5 it took out the engines then I used F3's. It took two trips back to port to reload but I was able to sink it finally.
Its crew abandon the ship of course so it was right where I left it.
I agree with everyone above though. One Uboat should'nt have enough firepower to sink that ship, and its scale is wrong in the game. It is a massive size compared to the asset they're using in the game.
In all it was a fun half a day of playtime.

I mean, if theoretically U-47 and the first salvo had all hit and detonated, they wouldn't have needed to go back to port. But that's the thing, usually you are going to miss some and have some duds. But we do have a real world example where the number of torpedos that detonated on the Ark Royal is <= how many the sub carried. So, plausibly,, a sub should be able to sink a battleship similar to the Ark Royal in one go, if, if things somehow go perfectly right and the torpedoes hit critical areas and they all detonate no misses. But it should be very, very rare. U-47 did have to go back for more because of misses and duds.

Well its usually patrolling in the SW corner of BE. If anyone wants to give it a go. It has company :)

[Starkwolf]

Originally posted by Razors Edge:

Originally posted by starkwolf:

I mean, if theoretically U-47 and the first salvo had all hit and detonated, they wouldn't have needed to go back to port. But that's the thing, usually you are going to miss some and have some duds. But we do have a real world example where the number of torpedos that detonated on the Ark Royal is <= how many the sub carried. So, plausibly,, a sub should be able to sink a battleship similar to the Ark Royal in one go, if, if things somehow go perfectly right and the torpedoes hit critical areas and they all detonate no misses. But it should be very, very rare. U-47 did have to go back for more because of misses and duds.

Well its usually patrolling in the SW corner of BE. If anyone wants to give it a go. It has company :)

I'd complain about spoilers, but by the time I am ready to try it I will probably forget you said that anyway. Might want to spoiler its location.

[HughesI]

I managed to sink the one in Scapa FLow today
it took 6 working torpedoes (I shot 8, 2 of which were duds).
I looked online what the keel depth is (8,45 metres) and I shot magnetic detonators set at 9,5 metres, on a spread, several metres apart. That got it almost capsizing first and destroyed on the second salvo.

[Red_Seven_]

Originally posted by Starkwolf:

But we do have a real world example where the number of torpedos that detonated on the Ark Royal is <= how many the sub carried.

What? No...
Prien made his first attack run with 4 (1 stuck in the tube) torpedos, from which only one detonated, so he turned and was about to get away from scraps flow.
When he noticed the Brits weren't going completely crazy about the explosion (because they most probably thought it was caused by something like a malfunction) he turned again and made a second run with the next 3 torpedos, which finally sank the royal oak.
He absolutely didn't have to go back to port to fetch more torpedos.

Edit: Whoops, didn't notice I was answering to something from almost 2 years ago...