historical flags?

[Golden Wombat]

I don't yet own the game but was hoping to get an answer. I want to know if the flags used by Germany and in particular the Kriegsmarine are historically correct?

I love the look of the game and love ww2 sub games especially playing as Germany.

[Surottoru]

No, they do not have swastika, I would almost bet on a mod at some point bringing historical flags though at a later date

[aktal]

well if they had the 'swastika' it couldn't be sold in germany, and may hinder its sales in a lot of eastern europeon countries

[U_Korvettenkapitaen]

We've written about it in our FAQ:

"Q: Why no swastikas?
A: It's too much trouble for a small developer. We would have to keep separate builds for countries where they are allowed and countries where nazis symbols are banned. That would delay updates to the game and in case of a mistake we would be forced to pay fines."

[Päjermeister]

Originally posted by Golden Wombat:

they just lost a sale....I dont buy Tumblr approved trigger kiddy games

Little detail you won’t notice 99% of the time > A good game ??

[Metallos]

And what about adding the symbols / flags in the game files but keeping them off? Turning them on shouldn't be in the game options, the user has to change a regedit value or edit a config file.

[Vasious]

Originally posted by Golden Wombat:

FYI the Kriegsmarine never used the swazsticker

There was one on the War Ensign of the Kriegsmarine

The British ships fly the Union Jack as opposed to the Red or White ensign as well in game presumably because it is more recognisable for general audience.

Not everything you dont like is becuase of "kids from Tumblr"

[Mors Invictus]

Originally posted by Vasious:

Originally posted by Golden Wombat:

FYI the Kriegsmarine never used the swazsticker

There was one on the War Ensign of the Kriegsmarine

And surface ships had sometimes huge swastikas painted on their decks when operating close to the homeland and German-held territories to tell the Luftwaffe which ships not to bomb. Those were usually removed or painted over once the ships entered the atlantic.
As for u-boats: They only flew the ensign of the Kriegmarine and, once the war had started, the war ensign, which did contain a swastika, as Vasios pointed out.

Also, aktal is correct in pointing out that (until recently) censorship rules in Germany prohibited the sale of games containing swastikas. The rules were relaxed recently, but this game may still fall under prohibited use. Since the new rules are just that, new, this is still untested waters and I doubt that the devs and/or the publisher want to risk getting the game banned in the very country that brought forth the u-boats and still holds one of the largest communities of sub-sim fans.
The alternative would be separate censored version for the German market, but that would require the devs to maintain two parallel builds throughout the development process, uneccessarily complicating the process. I wouldn't expect a split into an international and a censored version to occur before the final stages of the development process, assuming that it would happen at all.

[green_abobo]

im sure someone will mod eventually

[CappieBara]

maybe if you are a good programmer or stuff like that you maybe can maybe replace the flag used right now to the swastika only for your install of the game

[Templer]

No, no historical swastika. But you can be sure, it will be included in one of the first three free user mods. By the way, I do not need a swastika, but the vanilla flag is awful.

[Hjalfnar_HGV]

Originally posted by Golden Wombat:

FYI the Kriegsmarine never used the swazsticker

Yes, it did...the Reichskriegsflagge.

The reason for this game not containing a swastika flag is the same as with every other game not having them: Nazi symbols are banned to varying degrees in a lot of European countries, including major sales markets like France, Germany, Poland and Russia. Especially the latter two do enforce their laws with little to no exceptions at the moment, while Germany has recently made it possible for the first time for games to be considered art and therefor allowed to show nazi insignia, depending if the game puts enough emphasis on showing the devastating effects of the Nazi ideology.

[Till]

The devs included much harder stuff than a swastika in the game. I found an issue of the "Stürmer" magazine on a table in the crew quarters. The headlines say: "Verjudete Aristokratie" and "Die Juden sind unser Unglück". That's the most evil Nazi hate speech than I ever saw in any WW2 game.

[Rex Regis]

Originally posted by Golden Wombat:

FYI the Kriegsmarine never used the swazsticker

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=zjjLXKe-A-qU0gLoyIEQ&q=kriegsmarine+flag&oq=Kriegsmarine+fl&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l6.2747.4390..6472...0.0..1.1093.1679.1j4j7-1......0....2j1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131.bwmR3hrVvkc

the swastika was a part of the flag, im also one of the people that can get mad at un-historically correct stuff in games (looking at you battlefield 5) but flags are minor in my book so i dont see it as that big of a deal, but i would like it if we could get even the PC Reichskriegsflagge on the ship mast (with the eagle not the swastika)

[Sweet Briana 💋™]

SO many people claim to want historical accuracy, yet they no very little accurate history.

Self interest reigns supreme when justifying the cognitive dissonance of confusing wants with needs, facts with truth, and the separation of them from friction.

lol @ " "un"-historically correct stuff in games"


Perhaps you should just put the "history" books down then.

[Golden Wombat]

Originally posted by Metallos:

And what about adding the symbols / flags in the game files but keeping them off? Turning them on shouldn't be in the game options, the user has to change a regedit value or edit a config file.

That would be a great idea