UBOAT
Thirium 310 Aug 25, 2019 @ 10:44am
Why is the Control room always flooded if I dive? That water is annoying
title
Originally posted by Matthew Spindler:
A bilge is area that is designed to collect waste oil or water from various sources on a ship or submarine.

Example: water that enters the boat through the propeller shaft seals, fuel oil leakage from diesel engines, water from the snorkel that makes it in the boat, condensation, leakage from valves that carry liquid, rain water that comes down from the conning tower, etc.

Bilges are a necessity in ocean going vessels. There are always things that create sources of water to collect on the inside. There will always be a way for water to slowly find it way into a ship/submarine. Therefore there must be a system in place to remove this collection of waste liquids. This is where bilges and bilge pumps come in handy.

In order to collect all these liquids, uboats where designed to have 1 low point where are these liquids could move to past bulkheads through pipes and isolation valves to one central location in the control room. This is why the control room collects water in the bilges with regularity.

During deep dives water would tend to collect in the bilge at a faster rate which is reflected in the game. The increase is collection is caused by an increase in sea pressure seeping through the periscope seals, shaft seals and anything that is designed to penetrate through the pressure hull.

During foul weather it was normal for water to pour down the hatch from the conning tower and collect in the bilge. It was therefore customary for the watch crew to keep the upper hatch closed.

Before a U-boat would dive it was customary to pump the bilges dry to cut down on smell and most importantly the added weight these liquids would create.

Without bilges a ship would just continuously collect water from various sources with no way of consolidating the liquids to pump them back overboard.

The game tries to reflect this in making you use the bilge pump to empty the control room bilge.

And it makes perfect sense!!!

How do I know this??? Well because I served on a submarine in the US Navy of course!


So remember gentleman, before you dive, pump yo ♥♥♥♥!



< >
Showing 1-11 of 11 comments
Thirium 310 Aug 25, 2019 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by Ruby:
HI,

switch on the pump.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1845249416

Cheers Ruby
Yeah, i know, but why is a submarine designed to be flooded? :D
deewd22 Aug 25, 2019 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by Frozen Weed Marshmallow:
Originally posted by Ruby:
HI,

switch on the pump.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1845249416

Cheers Ruby
Yeah, i know, but why is a submarine designed to be flooded? :D
Because it's Impossible to design one that can withstand the immense waterpressure whilst having multiple weakspots (hatch-es, torbedolauncher, etc.).
Modern military uboats still have the same problem.
Thirium 310 Aug 25, 2019 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by deewd22:
Originally posted by Frozen Weed Marshmallow:
Yeah, i know, but why is a submarine designed to be flooded? :D
Because it's Impossible to design one that can withstand the immense waterpressure whilst having multiple weakspots (hatch-es, torbedolauncher, etc.).
Modern military uboats still have the same problem.
I thought the water is stacked at the stern of the boat and at the front. When you dive you see at the stern and at the front water stacked in a gray tank. Do you know what I mean?
Last edited by Thirium 310; Aug 25, 2019 @ 11:40am
Vanguard(Aqua) Aug 25, 2019 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Frozen Weed Marshmallow:
Originally posted by deewd22:
Because it's Impossible to design one that can withstand the immense waterpressure whilst having multiple weakspots (hatch-es, torbedolauncher, etc.).
Modern military uboats still have the same problem.
I thought the water is stacked at the stern of the boat and at the front. When you dive you see at the stern and at the front water stacked in a gray tank. Do you know what I mean?
the water under the floor of the control room is billge water all boats/submarines have water in them anyplace there is a hole in the hull to the water( hatchs, propeller shafts, water intake on nuculer reactors( to cool them) ectra) it goes to the center control room because that is the lowest point of the submarine,they built it like that on purpose for boyancy sake bilge water(and subsequent pumps connected to the bilge system to remove said water) are always in the lowest points of the hull/compartment
Last edited by Vanguard(Aqua); Aug 25, 2019 @ 12:41pm
Thirium 310 Aug 25, 2019 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by Vanguard(Aqua):
Originally posted by Frozen Weed Marshmallow:
I thought the water is stacked at the stern of the boat and at the front. When you dive you see at the stern and at the front water stacked in a gray tank. Do you know what I mean?
the water under the floor of the control room is billge water all boats/submarines have water in them anyplace there is a hole in the hull to the water( hatchs, propeller shafts, water intake on nuculer reactors( to cool them) ectra) it goes to the center control room because that is the lowest point of the submarine,they built it like that on purpose for boyancy sake bilge water(and subsequent pumps connected to the bilge system to remove said water) are always in the lowest points of the hull/compartment
And the water in the grey tanks at the stern and at the front of the boat is water to fill tanks to make the boat heavier so that it can dive?
Omogoto Aug 25, 2019 @ 2:50pm 
Order an officer through the top hatch and then back down so he closes the hatch behind him.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Matthew Spindler Aug 25, 2019 @ 3:56pm 
A bilge is area that is designed to collect waste oil or water from various sources on a ship or submarine.

Example: water that enters the boat through the propeller shaft seals, fuel oil leakage from diesel engines, water from the snorkel that makes it in the boat, condensation, leakage from valves that carry liquid, rain water that comes down from the conning tower, etc.

Bilges are a necessity in ocean going vessels. There are always things that create sources of water to collect on the inside. There will always be a way for water to slowly find it way into a ship/submarine. Therefore there must be a system in place to remove this collection of waste liquids. This is where bilges and bilge pumps come in handy.

In order to collect all these liquids, uboats where designed to have 1 low point where are these liquids could move to past bulkheads through pipes and isolation valves to one central location in the control room. This is why the control room collects water in the bilges with regularity.

During deep dives water would tend to collect in the bilge at a faster rate which is reflected in the game. The increase is collection is caused by an increase in sea pressure seeping through the periscope seals, shaft seals and anything that is designed to penetrate through the pressure hull.

During foul weather it was normal for water to pour down the hatch from the conning tower and collect in the bilge. It was therefore customary for the watch crew to keep the upper hatch closed.

Before a U-boat would dive it was customary to pump the bilges dry to cut down on smell and most importantly the added weight these liquids would create.

Without bilges a ship would just continuously collect water from various sources with no way of consolidating the liquids to pump them back overboard.

The game tries to reflect this in making you use the bilge pump to empty the control room bilge.

And it makes perfect sense!!!

How do I know this??? Well because I served on a submarine in the US Navy of course!


So remember gentleman, before you dive, pump yo ♥♥♥♥!



Last edited by Matthew Spindler; Aug 25, 2019 @ 4:01pm
Vanguard(Aqua) Aug 25, 2019 @ 4:22pm 
Originally posted by Frozen Weed Marshmallow:
Originally posted by Vanguard(Aqua):
the water under the floor of the control room is billge water all boats/submarines have water in them anyplace there is a hole in the hull to the water( hatchs, propeller shafts, water intake on nuculer reactors( to cool them) ectra) it goes to the center control room because that is the lowest point of the submarine,they built it like that on purpose for boyancy sake bilge water(and subsequent pumps connected to the bilge system to remove said water) are always in the lowest points of the hull/compartment
And the water in the grey tanks at the stern and at the front of the boat is water to fill tanks to make the boat heavier so that it can dive?
yep those two tanks are ballast tanks when ful the boat loses poditive boyancy and can sink coupled with the dive planes when empty(there filled with air) the boat gains positive boyancy and wants to float,whereas when full it has neutral boyancy and holds whatever depth you order(unless you have flooding)
Last edited by Vanguard(Aqua); Aug 25, 2019 @ 4:23pm
BlushBnnuy Aug 26, 2019 @ 6:34pm 
What was your Rate Milkman?
wolf310ii Aug 26, 2019 @ 8:27pm 
Originally posted by Vanguard(Aqua):
yep those two tanks are ballast tanks when ful the boat loses poditive boyancy and can sink coupled with the dive planes when empty(there filled with air) the boat gains positive boyancy and wants to float,whereas when full it has neutral boyancy and holds whatever depth you order(unless you have flooding)

To be correct, with flooded ballast tanks, the boat has still positiv bouyancy. For negative bouyancy, to bring the boat under the surface, there is a "Untertriebszelle" (negativ bouancy tank), but this tank is blown empty as soon as the boat is under water.
For neutral bouyancy is the regulating tank, wich can compensate some flooding
< >
Showing 1-11 of 11 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Aug 25, 2019 @ 10:44am
Posts: 11