MVCI failing is Marvel's Fault. I think its clear now.

[SuperShadonicX]

From one of the faces of EVO himself. If these tweets don't convince you, I don't know what will.

https://twitter.com/jchensor/status/978057719335723008
https://twitter.com/jchensor/status/978136148240289792
https://twitter.com/jchensor/status/978066359673266177
https://twitter.com/jchensor/status/946796825297559552

Don't wanna sound like a capcuck or anything but... Let me get one thing straight... if everything goes to Marvel for approval... how is it Capcom's fault again? They approved it all!
The most I could blame Capcom for is some of the faces... which also got approved by Marvel :D

Other than that 2 of the Biggest concerns, the art style is clear marketing for MCU, the no X-Men decision... that was clear as day from Marvel.

EVO is never gonna come out and say out loud and clear that its Marvel's fault. Marvel could probably sue them and signed NDAs over that.
Marvel is in the dominant position, if they wanted they could even shove MVCI now... problem is.. Marvel itself wants to kill it.... and itself is the reason the product got disliked in the first place.

James Chen used the word "Monstrously Controlling" for Marvel. Ring a bell? EVO probably was gonna put in MVC but Marvel didn't allow it.
EVO airs on ESPN... ESPN is owned by Disney... If Disney owns Marvel... if Disney wanted, they could even shove it into EVO right now. Probably though... they themselves want to kill the game. Take a good look at Marvel Heroes Omega, there was no Capcom in that game by the way.

He even hits at Battle for the Stones ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up format handling being indirectly controlled by Marvel and not Capcom.

[KL36720]

Toldja everyone. This is a reason why I’ve trying to warn about the major problems involving movie rights issues into this latest legacy series game

[Ignus]

Marvel did not want videos to show combos being performed on any of their characters, especially not by a Capcom character.

Ah, so we reached that level of property handling.
I can see how a lot of these issues turned the game bad, at least from a presentation perspective.

I didn't know Chen would be so pesimistic thinking that MvCI just killed the Marvel Vs franchise forever.
Even I think time would heal things. Wait their cinematic universe media hype gets way lower, don't be so strict to let other media use your characters 'in the right way'. And maybe in a decade or more, we would have a great Marvel vs Capcom again.

[NeoTurfMaster]

Thank you for this info. I knew Capcom couldn't have done something like this. I wish I could get a refund...

[unclassified]

capcom is the producer and created the game so no, its not marvels fault.
they agreed to theire terms so its capcoms responsibility at the end.

funny how people always try to find a way to blame others instead the company which actually did the product. same happened with sfv where people tried to blame sony.
at the end its capcoms game and theire fault for how the products turn out!

[Emily]

Originally posted by unclassified:

capcom is the producer and created the game so no, its not marvels fault.
they agreed to theire terms so its capcoms responsibility at the end.

funny how people always try to find a way to blame others instead the company which actually did the product. same happened with sfv where people tried to blame sony.
at the end its capcoms game and theire fault for how the products turn out!

Are you trying to be dumb on purpose?

While it may not be Marvel's fault 100%, Marvel nowadays has been known to be a colossal nightmare to work with, Marvel Heroes had the same fate happen to it. The bigger that entity becomes, the more entitled they will be. Whatever "approval" Capcom needed from Marvel to 'OK' certain things would undoubtedly cost them extra.

SFV (as much as I dislike it) is a different beast entirely. Capcom has actively been more communicative towards improving the product despite their launch blunders. It doesn't matter what you think of Launch SFV - current SFV is objectively better than that; can't really the same for this game.

[NeoTurfMaster]

Originally posted by unclassified:

capcom is the producer and created the game so no, its not marvels fault.
they agreed to theire terms so its capcoms responsibility at the end.

funny how people always try to find a way to blame others instead the company which actually did the product. same happened with sfv where people tried to blame sony.
at the end its capcoms game and theire fault for how the products turn out!

I don’t think you get it.

It’s likely that Capcom learned about the restrictions AFTER joining with Marvel to make this game. Capcom was making this game under Marvel’s thumb, and under their design choices, with little or no say in the matter. That led to this game being a pile of shit.

SFV was good because Capcom had more freedom to do whatever they wanted, but apparently for Marvel, putting Cammy back in their roster is a crime.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

Marvel has their share of problems, but at the end of the day Capcom put almost no effort into this game and it shows. Do you really think the only reason this game flopped is because they couldn't punch Captain America in trailers?

[Argstein]

Originally posted by Mega Missingno.:

Marvel has their share of problems, but at the end of the day Capcom put almost no effort into this game and it shows. Do you really think the only reason this game flopped is because they couldn't punch Captain America in trailers?

it has very little to do with the choices Marvel and Capcom made for story mode cinematics.
rather simply enough Marvel was responsible for not allowing certain popular characters being included at all, namely Wolverine, Storm, Sentinel, and Magneto......
you could say maybe that it was Fox or Disney, not Marvel directly who is to blame for that particular issue, but if you're going to blame either Marvel or Capcom, it all traces back to Marvel in my opinion.
I can also see how Marvel may have restricted Capcom and the game's development in other ways

but overall i think MvCI is a great game, although maybe it could be even better

[Providence 777]

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2018/mar/28/awe-inspiring-magneto-mural-makes-our-favorite-building-all-lawrenceville-pittsburgh/

[NeoTurfMaster]

https://twitter.com/andres_saldi/status/979788272380600320?s=21

[1.2M | Missingno.]

Wolverine would not have saved everything else that's wrong with this game.

[Argstein]

Originally posted by GlazedBacon:

https://twitter.com/andres_saldi/status/979788272380600320?s=21

"It's got great gameplay! It's MAHVEL"

heheh, Paul Jr knows what's up!!

[Tactical Turtle Neck]

Originally posted by Mega Missingno.:

Marvel has their share of problems, but at the end of the day Capcom put almost no effort into this game and it shows. Do you really think the only reason this game flopped is because they couldn't punch Captain America in trailers?

its ment to imply that marvel couldn't even handle their characters getting hit in promotional videos so just imagain what other dumb restrictions they had when the game was indivelopment. of course this is still just an assumption, maybe this along with no xmen was their only restricion.

anyway capcom has enough proof that marvel characters in fighting games means nothing with no effort, so hopfully this'll make them consider a capcom all star game with mvc3 or mvci mechanics since it's clear marvel didn't help with the money or with the development so capcom should ditch them. hopfully they can reuse the assets from mvci and mvc3 in future games that aren't related to marvel.

[Emily]

Originally posted by Yorkuza!:

No, the game is just bad objectively, but fun subjectively. It's not just Marvel or Capcom's fault, while at the same time it's both their fault. Everything I said isn't counter intuitive either.

The game is not bad objectively. Some people like the graphics more on this game than they do MVC3 (I'm one of them), but I like MVC3's presentation more. The gameplay isn't buggy, and many people have said it's fun. This game also 'objectively' has more content than MvC3, what's your point then?

I enjoy this other game more =/= other game is objectively bad. Stupid statement to make.

Originally posted by tsjanith:

Originally posted by Yorkuza!:

No, the game is just bad objectively, but fun subjectively. It's not just Marvel or Capcom's fault, while at the same time it's both their fault. Everything I said isn't counter intuitive either.

I couldn't help but notice the moe girl on your profile?

Do you per chance like moe anime?

What is with you and this insane hatred for anime or anything anime related lol?

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by Emily Lux:

What is with you and this insane hatred for anime or anything anime related lol?

He believes that "weebs" the 1 and only reason this game missed its sales targets, and is also the reason its currently not surviving well against competing fighting games.

His hatred of me was based soley on the fact that he thought I was a "weeb" for pointing out the anime inspired art direction of the 2D sprite MvC games.