Is Rogue the worst class in the game?

[123 Casual Player]

I thought Rogue is supposed to be the damage melee class, but it seems to have worst offense than a Warrior, and worst defense than a Wizard or Hunter. Why is that?

I have beaten every stage with Warrior, Wizard, and Hunter. And so far Rogue is just one big disappointment after another.

[Samseng Yik]

Rogue is never to play with defense.
Killing all enemies within 1 turn is practically how to play Rogue.
Of course certain encounter and Forest final boss will force Rogue into defense, which complicate up the matter a bit.

- what weapon you using?
- if plan to leave much enemies alive, better use Hide. With this way, you don't need defense against them since they will not attack for 2 turns.
- Use the Street school to stun enemies who no yet attack. Mean 1 defense card to affect 2 enemies.

Anyway, do you unlock Subclass already? Like Lich and Storm Master for Wizard ?

[123 Casual Player]

Problem is, killing all enemies in 1 turn is how you play every other class. Except they are all better at it.

Hunter is so absurd you can kill the 666 demon in 1 turn. And while warrior and wizard are not so absurd, they can still kill the lich or dragon boss in 1 turn. Even in the rare occasion of bad RNG (where you wind up with 5 defense cards at hand) you can still recover from it with free defenses.

As for my setups
Hunter - Fey, Fairy Bow, Rustic, Forest Crown (undodgeable), Dragon Whistle/Vampire Arrow, Iolo (always pick +1 damage, detect, and +1 distance on lv up)

Warrior - Berserker, Warhammer, Hatcher, Forest Crown (damage), Dragon Whistle/Rosary, Iolo (always pick combat reflex/defense mastery on lv up, 2 startup berserk and 1 max berserk), Forest Crown can also be swap to defense mid battle to gain +1 defense that turn.

Mage1 - Arcane, Lightning, Mirror, Illusion Robe, Dragon Whistle/Storm Ring, Iolo/owl (always pick energy and return damage on lv up)

Mage2 - Pyro, Scorching, Mist, Pyro Robe, Dragon Whistle/Arcane Channeler, Iolo/salamander (always pick energy and avoid all fire perks).

My current Rogue setup is terrible, it's
Swash, Short Sword, Off Hand Dagger, Poison Darts, Garrotte, Brigard Armor. (non of the level up perks look that good).

1 defense card vs 2 enemies sound good on paper, except the things that most often require defense are status immune, distance, hidden, or haste.

Not really a fan of the sub class challenge. I completed the paladin one and I lost interest due to how slow it was. Yes, i am aware I can use dragon whistle and Iolo to start from 1 stage before the final stage, then swap your gears.

[Samseng Yik]

Anyway, did you played Slay The Spire?
It is popular and very similar

[123 Casual Player]

I played that a little bit, but I prefer Card Quest.

Here I get to keep my loots, in Slay the Spire I have to throw 95% of the stuff away.

[Frosty the Pyro]

my preffered rougue is swashbuckler school, claws, and fey pouch.

[Censor]

Hello.
I think we shpuld open a thread with our best configurations.

I have played more than 100 hours but was not until recently I got a very useful hunter configuration. Sharpshooter, short bow, dwarf quiver, and decoction (that one that gives you all stamina). Once I used it, I was able to unlock many equipement and even complete the game a few times.
But I do not understand the fey school. I have the quiver and the bow, but can not get very far. I have many equipement and I do not know how to use it good.

So, if you have a nice configuration, tell us.

[123 Casual Player]

You do know that Rogue =/= Hunter right?

Hunter is the strongest class in the game. Rogue is the melee class with weak attacks, high cost, and even worst defense. Swinging a hammer with warrior cost less than a dagger with a rogue, does more damage and I don't need to set up status.

And yes, I already beaten every stage with a Rogue. He doesn't get much better nomatter the configuration. He is still weak vs bosses that hides and spams you, damage on contact, status immunity, and charge. He is the worst at card cycling and the only one you have to hit end turn for running low on power.

[eruditebaboon]

Try rogue with fairy sword and bag of tricks - bag of tricks is excellent for cycling, which makes it easier to play 4 sword attacks and enter the fairy realm, and that makes the bag of tricks even cheaper to use - most cards cost 0 stamina. Just don't bother using the attack that spends fairy power and you should be able to breeze through anything - one of my favourite builds in the game.

[123 Casual Player]

Fairy sword + Bag + Swashbuckling. Thanks it works pretty well.

Still, using bag makes you extra vulerable when forced to block (charge, hidden, bosses that hide mid fight), and damage on contact. I think the other 3 classes are still better since they can all 1 turn kill but without those weaknesses.

[Mr. Magnifico]

There are rogue builds that work but I'm currently trying to unlock the Hitman subclass and having all kinds of trouble. I have made to the final battle a couple of times, but its hard not to have poison make the boss dragon take damage that makes it spawn extra dragons, more than I can handle, before I am ready. More generally, I'm OK during the first few rounds, but then I have trouble with stamina and card draw as the battle goes one. Even snagging a bottle of whiskey on the way doesn't help enough with the stamina issue when I'm relying on the very expensive Distraction card to avoid the boss' fire breath. Fwiw here's what I'm using:

Assassination school (required)
Assassin's Blade
Throwing Knives
Shadow Cloak
Secret Knife
Poison Kit (required)

I wonder if maybe I should be using the Cursed Dagger, but it's such a pain in the neck to use I have resisted it. Do I need to bite the bullet and learn how?

The throwing knives give me a way to do decent damge against aware enemies, and of course distant ones. Also, using Poison Kit + Multiple Throw stuns 3 enemies.

EDIT: Yup, Cursed Dagger hits a lot harder. Switching to that and the Spider Poison was the key to getting the unlock. Spider poison helps by allowing you to use Multiple Throw to stun 3x enemies at least one more time per fight. This helps a lot keeping called dragons under control in the final fight. I'll add a more detailed writeup to the subclass sticky.

[Josh Peck]

See, I wanna unlock the cursed disk for my Rogue, but I find it impossible because of all of the damage on contact. I've tried so many configurations and still no luck, does anyone have any tips?

[123 Casual Player]

Well the whip ignores damage on contact. Throwing knives are better at actually doing damage, and swashbuckling make things marginally cheaper.

Although I actually used phase blade on my runthrough to make distance while throwing knives. Royal Elixir was used for the occasional damage taken to make distance. I used it because when I check the card, phase blade was shown to be "ranged", but turns out you still take damage on contact anyway.

[thegrassyknoll]

I found the rogue to be the easiest to play, and least reliant on cards RNG. Once you have the claw that is. Best weapon in game from my experience. Of course every build i have tried seems to have some vulnerablility to certain bosses. Which makes the game fun and choice of path relevant. Use an item like garrotte for instance that draws cards. Any item that draws cards is great for any class

[Sleekie]

I have to ask: where do you get the supply of stamina to kill everything in one turn?

[123 Casual Player]

It works with these specific setups.

With
Hunter - Fey, Fairy Bow, Rustic

Warrior - Berserker, Warhammer, Hatcher

Mage1 - Arcane, Lightning, Mirror, Illusion Robe

Basically, stack cost reduction and cycle through cards as cheaply as possible. Might take a bit getting used to.