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wcc Oct 17, 2021 @ 4:05am
The Ultimum (bug?)
So, I've met this boss and managed to kill it with poison from Occidere, which was as overpowered as I knew it from other RPG maker games, and truth be told, without it I wouldn't stood a chance. But as far as I know I should have gotten an achievement for that fight, what didn't happen.
Okay, so I gave it another try. But in any subsequent approach the poison dealt only like 400 instead of 6000+ damage. Was it bugged in my first run? Or is it bugged later? Or am I missing a mechanism?

Some feedback regarding that encounter: I'm not really a fan of the design here. First of all, all encounters before don't suggest that I've got to face such an absolute uber boss here (it plainly outheals most of the damage I deal, so it's not even close), and so my preparations might not be suffient (i.e. regardng level grinding, but not sure I'ld do that anyway, though, since it probably take hours, and I liked that up to this point there wasn't a real need for heavy grind). And it doesn't help that everytime I want to retry, I've got to go through tons of dialogs and some walking. :/
Last edited by wcc; Oct 17, 2021 @ 9:40am
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Karbonic  [developer] Oct 17, 2021 @ 10:01am 
Be sure to destroy the halo before attacking the body, if the halo is destroyed it will be unable to heal itself.
As for poison, It shouldn't have been doing 6000 damage, 400 sounds about right.
I'm going to check in on the achievement to see if I can find the problem.
wcc Oct 17, 2021 @ 10:07am 
Wait .... there were two targets, with the halo being a separate one? :D I completely missed that!

Regarding the poison: I figure when I encountered the boss the first time, I was testing different attacks to see what's effective. I think I might have destroyed the halo accidentally on the road, and maybe afterwards the poison become so incredibly overpowered.

I've checked it now again. With the halo gone, the poison dealt 4800 to 6500+ damage to the Ultimum, with the Lord being Lvl 10 (I've recruited him right at the beginning of day 2). I think a nerf might make sense, but I wouldn't shrink at down to 400 tbh: The Lord is kinda useless in most situations, with below-average damage and most special skills almost depleting it's MP bar, despite the chance of failure.
Well, I got the achievment now. Might still be worth investigating though.

Btw. another achievment which might be broken is Railroad Traveler. Seems to be a story achievement, but I never got it.

Thanks for your response!
Last edited by wcc; Oct 17, 2021 @ 10:48am
Karbonic  [developer] Oct 17, 2021 @ 12:24pm 
Gotcha! I'll look into all of these things soon.
It's interesting how much the poison numbers changed with the halo missing, That's not intentional, so I'm gonna have to check it out!

Thanks for the feedback!
wcc Oct 17, 2021 @ 12:32pm 
Duh, I forget to check, but I figure I've just dealt 400 poison damage against the halo. It depends heavily on the base HP and that's why it's particularly effective against bosses throughout RPG maker games. So the poison aspect might be more a question of balancing than debugging. ;)

Edit: Yeah, I've checked it. It was my mistake by not realizing the halo is a different entity. Poison deals tremendous amounts of damage the Ultimum even when the halo is still there.
Last edited by wcc; Oct 17, 2021 @ 12:52pm
Karbonic  [developer] Oct 17, 2021 @ 12:57pm 
Gotcha! I figured that might be what was going on, but I wasn't sure.
I'm gonna mess around with poison and other status effect balance soon to see what feels right.
wcc Oct 17, 2021 @ 1:41pm 
I could offer you that savegame: https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ANkfVW0Em-IFoaA&cid=3F49C35AC88D37E0&id=3F49C35AC88D37E0%2114894&parId=root&o=OneUp
What you find here is a probably representative party at the very last checkpoint before that encounter.

Edit: And here's one where I don't get the Railroad Traveler after proceeding: https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AJq92pGm3kglhKw&cid=3F49C35AC88D37E0&id=3F49C35AC88D37E0%2114895&parId=root&o=OneUp
(be careful, it might have the same filename as the other one)
You've got to kill the village chief and exit. This is my second playthrough since there are achievments. so I figure it happens more reliably and is might be easier to replicate than the issue with the Ultimate achievement.

Thanks for all your effort!
Last edited by wcc; Oct 17, 2021 @ 2:08pm
wcc Oct 19, 2021 @ 3:40pm 
Allright, after experiencing all of it I've finally added some more meat to my meaningless review from some years ago. Thanks for your great game!
If the Railroad Traveler achievement gets fixed at some point, I'll come back for this last missing achievement. But it's not really that important to me. See you next game! :)
Karbonic  [developer] Oct 22, 2021 @ 10:26am 
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the game!
I'm gonna do some testing of the achievement later today.
Thanks for the fair review, I hope you enjoy what the future holds as well!
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