The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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zerinp Apr 11, 2024 @ 4:16pm
NPCs enters some sort of T pose when running
Male NPCs freeze in some sort of pose semi-T pose when they run. Their arms go straight out to the side but turns down at the elbows. Their legs look like they're just about to start running but they don't move in the character just kind of floats along until it stops or starts walking.
It doesn't seem to affect player character or females and my guess is that it's because I've modded those animations.

So do I need to remove the game and start over?
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Chaosium Apr 11, 2024 @ 4:38pm 
Do you have mods that affect animations? T posing is usually an issue that requires to run FNIS
toasty frosting Apr 11, 2024 @ 5:10pm 
Take a look to see what mods are affecting animations in your file structure if you're using something like MO2. Some mods also require you to generate Nemesis/FNIS output. Generally you want to use Nemesis instead of FNIS these days unless you're using very specific mods.
zerinp Apr 12, 2024 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by toasty frosting:
Take a look to see what mods are affecting animations in your file structure if you're using something like MO2. Some mods also require you to generate Nemesis/FNIS output. Generally you want to use Nemesis instead of FNIS these days unless you're using very specific mods.
I'm using FNIS, and I just ran the output and nothing changed. I downloaded a combat animation mod which gave me male specific animations for the first time, I was just having a hard time believing that's what messed up a vanilla run animation.
zerinp Apr 12, 2024 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by Chaosium:
Do you have mods that affect animations? T posing is usually an issue that requires to run FNIS
Yeah I ran FNIS before I started this game, and I just did it again yesterday before I came here. It's not a normal T pose, it looks like they are stuck in a partial run but nothing moves. I just haven't seen it before and can't find any information about this specific one. My guess is it has something to do with one of my animation mods that affect male characters specifically but the only one I have is a combat animation mod. Do you think I should disable it and see if it goes back to normal?
Abisha Apr 13, 2024 @ 1:14am 
people use FNIS? how old this topic?
Originally posted by Abisha:
people use FNIS? how old this topic?
yes people use FNIS, it is still valid.
Abisha Apr 13, 2024 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Originally posted by Abisha:
people use FNIS? how old this topic?
yes people use FNIS, it is still valid.
it's "stupid" use Pandora it have FNIS and Nemesis compatibility
Originally posted by zerinp:
Originally posted by Chaosium:
Do you have mods that affect animations? T posing is usually an issue that requires to run FNIS
Yeah I ran FNIS before I started this game, and I just did it again yesterday before I came here. It's not a normal T pose, it looks like they are stuck in a partial run but nothing moves. I just haven't seen it before and can't find any information about this specific one. My guess is it has something to do with one of my animation mods that affect male characters specifically but the only one I have is a combat animation mod. Do you think I should disable it and see if it goes back to normal?
Make sure you have all the prerequisites, and that your load order is sorted.
Then run FNIS generator again.

Not having all the required mods can cause T-posing, because it is relying on resources that aren't there. And the load order can affect it, because later stuff overwrites earlier stuff, which can cause tposes.
Originally posted by Abisha:
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
yes people use FNIS, it is still valid.
it's "stupid" use Pandora it have FNIS and Nemesis compatibility
Not everything will be compatible with anything, there will be mods that work with FNIS but not Pandora, after all people said Nemesis was compatible with FNIS mods and there are still mods that work with FNIS but not Nemesis (and vice versa)
Abisha Apr 13, 2024 @ 1:31am 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Originally posted by Abisha:
it's "stupid" use Pandora it have FNIS and Nemesis compatibility
Not everything will be compatible with anything, there will be mods that work with FNIS but not Pandora, after all people said Nemesis was compatible with FNIS mods and there are still mods that work with FNIS but not Nemesis (and vice versa)

serious Pandora is one to rule all option. try it you be amazed.

https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/19414-pandora-behavior-engine/

+ update manual
https://github.com/Monitor144hz/Pandora-Behaviour-Engine-Plus

run in MO2, all your problems fix forever. ""with skyrim""
Last edited by Abisha; Apr 13, 2024 @ 1:33am
LostME Apr 13, 2024 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Originally posted by Abisha:
it's "stupid" use Pandora it have FNIS and Nemesis compatibility
Not everything will be compatible with anything, there will be mods that work with FNIS but not Pandora, after all people said Nemesis was compatible with FNIS mods and there are still mods that work with FNIS but not Nemesis (and vice versa)
It's normal when mods for nemesis not working with fnis. But vice versa. Give me some examples.
Abisha Apr 13, 2024 @ 1:58am 
Originally posted by LostME:
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Not everything will be compatible with anything, there will be mods that work with FNIS but not Pandora, after all people said Nemesis was compatible with FNIS mods and there are still mods that work with FNIS but not Nemesis (and vice versa)
It's normal when mods for nemesis not working with fnis. But vice versa. Give me some examples.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3220944628
Last edited by Abisha; Apr 13, 2024 @ 2:01am
LostME Apr 13, 2024 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by Abisha:
Originally posted by LostME:
It's normal when mods for nemesis not working with fnis. But vice versa. Give me some examples.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3220944628
I had these mods when I used the I&e collection. Everything worked perfectly on nemesis.
Last edited by LostME; Apr 13, 2024 @ 2:47am
Abisha Apr 13, 2024 @ 2:45am 
Originally posted by LostME:
Originally posted by Abisha:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3220944628
I had these mods when I used the I&e collection. Everything worked perfectly on nemesis.

do your Valhalla MCM shows all check (tab 3)
LostME Apr 13, 2024 @ 2:48am 
Originally posted by Abisha:
Originally posted by LostME:
I had these mods when I used the I&e collection. Everything worked perfectly on nemesis.

do your Valhalla MCM shows all check (tab 3)
I am not defending nemesis. Right now I'm use Pandora. =P it's much much faster.
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