Thane of Riften bug

[Imperator1125]

Okay I read UESP link on several links but not working, I have done the skooma smuggling quest, I have helped more than three people, and I tried the fix "setstage FreeformRiftenThane 10" no marker, no dialogue option just a speak to the Jarl of Riften in the Misc in quest log with no marker for it. Assistance would be appreciated.

[Hypertext Eye]

Have you tried speaking to the Jarl of Riften?

[Nabinkemper]

You said more than three people. For Riften, you will need to help five.

[Fear2288]

Originally posted by Nabinkemper:

You said more than three people. For Riften, you will need to help five.

Correct.

Riften’s Thane requirements are rather different from most of the others.

You first need to complete all stages of the skooma smuggling questline (give the Argonian a healing potion and find out about the dealer, speak to the Jarl and get access to the warehouse, kill the dealer in the warehouse and find a note, report back to the Jarl, head to Cragslorn Cave and wipe out the group of skooma dealing, illegal dogfighting bandits, report back to the Jarl).

Then you should get the Thane dialogue prompt of “is there anything else you need, my Jarl?”

You’ll then get the standard “help my people and own a home in my city” response.

Instead of assisting 3 people though, you need to assist 5 AND you need to purchase Honeyside.

IIRC you will NOT get entries in your Miscellaneous quest log for these objectives like you do with other Thane quests.

Only once you help 5 people and purchase Honeyside will you then get an objective to return to the Jarl and be made Thane.

Yeah, Riften’s is kinda weird. It’s also prone to being problematic because the Argonian who begins the required skooma questline is not protected or essential. If you kill her, or a dragon attacks the docks where she spends most of her day and she dies - you’re locked out of becoming Thane unless you input about 10 different console commands.

There’s also a couple quests and favor type activities you would think count towards assisting people - but they don’t.

The quickest and easiest way to pump out all five is to:

1. Give Dravin his bow back from the Ratway
2. Give the Argonian man in the tavern three flawless amethysts
3. Bring the Dunmer food vendor some frost salts/ice wraith teeth (I forget which it is)
4. Fetch Law-Giver’s son’s weapon from the blacksmith
5. Beat the stable master in a fist fight


Alternatively there’s also bringing the ingredients Ingun Black-Briar wants, giving fire salts to the blacksmith, and talking to Sapphire about Shadr’s debt.

[SpeedFreak1972]

giving a septim to a beggar counts helping shadr with his debt, finding ice wraith teeth, bring 10 pinches of fire salts to the blacksmith, etc

[Morgan Fun Gamer]

Are you playing with any mods or playing without any mods because mods could be affecting this gltich.

[Imperator1125]

I've done the skooma smuggling and yes I have mods, so far none should affect riften except the unofficial patch mod, that one is the only one that will be affecting riften. did a new save and completed the smuggling again without doing anything else in riften and this time the speak to the jarl I should get after doesn't even appear.

[Imperator1125]

Well I've help more than 5 people, my misc log says speak to the jarl of riften but their is no dialogue for the thane quest, and the setstage workaround not working either. Also no option to purchase honeyside either. I'm seriously clueless, going to look through wiki again but if anyone knows a solution would appreciate.

[Imperator1125]

Well I have no idea what's wrong, I've tried the fixes on the wiki, did everything was suppose to do, used the console to try and advance it but now I have "Return to the Jarl" stuck in my Misc.

[Imperator1125]

So just fixed it with console, not happy with it but I don't care anymore, I'll have to experiment later with zero mods but the AE Upgrade on. Not sure if a creation did it or a mod but it's possible. Anyway thanks guys for suggestions.

[Nabinkemper]

If all else seems to have failed, the least worst console command would be to adjust the relationship rank with the Jarl and Steward.

Instead of Setstage commands, you would open the console, select the Jarl, and type the following:

setrelationshiprank [RefID] 1 <enter>

Followed by

player.setrelationshiprank [RefID] 1 <enter>

For Laila Law-Giver, the reference ID is 00019DEA
For the Steward, Anuriel, it is 00019DEE

I have had this happen once with the same quest. I simply set the relationship rank and the dialog option to help the people and purchase the house appeared.

[Fear2288]

I notice that at no point do you mention that you bought Honeyside.

Did you buy Honeyside?

Buying it is a requirement for Riften’s Thane status.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Indeed normally you say when it come up I helped your people then the Jarl says there's but 1 requirement and that's when you purchase honeyside then go back to the Jarl tell her you purchased the house and se makes you her thane