The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 10:07am
Goldenhills stopped producing honey?
Not that i need Honey that bad but suddenly Goldenhills stopped restocking Honey in the Pantry where farm produce spawns.

And i am curious why.
Everything else still respawns eggs , milk , produce just the honey that stopped flowing.

I have zero mods installed of any kind in this playthrough just AE CC stuff.
Last edited by Alucard †; Oct 12, 2023 @ 10:07am
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Altbert Oct 12, 2023 @ 10:36am 
That may have to do with respawn timing, which could be different for milk and egg produce, but not for honey produce. Standard respawn time for exterior cells is 10 ingame days. I will have a look in the Creation Kit.
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Altbert:
That may have to do with respawn timing, which could be different for milk and egg produce, but not for honey produce. Standard respawn time for exterior cells is 10 ingame days. I will have a look in the Creation Kit.

The honey gets added into the Pantry usually at similar rate as rest of the farm produce (every 1-3 days i returned to my farm i got new honey alongside eggs , milk and planted crops yield) and i am pretty sure (most certain actually) it's running off a script not tied to cell respawn timer.

It suddenly stopped adding honey for weeks now.
Last edited by Alucard †; Oct 12, 2023 @ 10:52am
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 10:59am 
It's like the pantry script that checks what crops i have planted , what animals i have in pens and if i have apiary built to determine what items are added to the Pantry just "forgot" that i have Apiary built.
Altbert Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:20am 
I will have a look at the pantry script(s), once I have extracted those from the BSA file. That may have the timing schedule.
Altbert Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:28am 
Honey added to the pantry is set to once per 24 ingame days.
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Altbert:
I will have a look at the pantry script(s), once I have extracted those from the BSA file. That may have the timing schedule.

Thanks. On side note tried to do a cell reset. Slept in Breezehome for 12 days.

Returned back and checked the pantry. All produce restocked except honey.

Tried pulling out bees and honeycombs out of the Apiaries and everything out of the pantry and then do same cell reset again.

Bees and honeycombs respawned in Apiaries but still no honey in Pantry other produce restocked properly.
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Altbert:
Honey added to the pantry is set to once per 24 ingame days.

That doesn't seem right.
It was added to the Pantry almost daily for most of the playthrough..

Are you looking at the Goldenhills CC Pantry or the Apiary script? And definately not looking at the Lakeview Manor Apiary script?
Last edited by Alucard †; Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:36am
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:59am 
Okay so i did one last test.
Waited 30 days away from the farm.

One Honey got added to the right Apiary but not to the left one.
But still no Honey was added to the Pantry at all.

And i am telling you i kept getting Honey in pantry daily before it "broke"
In previous playthrough also as soon as Apiary was build 2-4 Honey was respawning in the Pantry Cupboard inside the Goldenhills house Interior daily.

I think the add honey after 24 day script might be for the Apiary container itself not for the Pantry cupboard that one probably functions of a different script that might have glitched somehow.
Last edited by Alucard †; Oct 12, 2023 @ 12:34pm
Altbert Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:18pm 
I would have to thouroughly check all scripts involved, not only those of the Goldenhills CC, but also of the Hearthfire DLC and maybe even the default Skyrim scripts. But, there seem to be quite some inconsistancies. Standard Beth issues?
Altbert Oct 12, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
I had to decompile a script. The maximum number of honey jars you can have in the pantry is 4. Honey is only produced when you have both a steward and farmhands, otherwise there will not be any honey produced, (weird, but that's the script).
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by Altbert:
I had to decompile a script. The maximum number of honey jars you can have in the pantry is 4. Honey is only produced when you have both a steward and farmhands, otherwise there will not be any honey produced, (weird, but that's the script).

I have Steward and both Farmhands.
I have built and bought every upgrade available for the Goldenhills long time ago in this playthrough.

And i kept removing the honey from pantry regularily every time it respawned and i've put it in the nearby barrels for most of the playthrough - and it kept respawning in the pantry in numbers of 2-4 depending how long i was away from the farm.

So that's it then the script simply broke for reasons unknown and maybe one of the checks is failing (thinks i'm lacking a Steward or Farmhand) and no honey is produced.

I hope the milk and eggs production don't break too cause pastries and meals requiring butter or milk are quite helpful on Survival.
Last edited by Alucard †; Oct 12, 2023 @ 2:59pm
Altbert Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:50pm 
Just found something else. Honey has a 60% chance of producing nothing, being a leveled item.
Last edited by Altbert; Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:50pm
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by Altbert:
Just found something else. Honey has a 60% chance of producing nothing, being a leveled item.

In the Pantry? The Pantry uses the 60% chance LL?

That still shouldn't behave like this where i get honey in Pantry daily for so long then suddenly nothing for weeks (months with testing)
Last edited by Alucard †; Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:57pm
Altbert Oct 12, 2023 @ 4:13pm 
No, the Goldenhills apiaries have a 60% chance to produce no honey, and thus a 40|% chance to produce honey. Sofar I have no clue how this affects the pantry, but obviously it should. I may have to decompile more scripts to see whatever affects the pantry.
Alucard † Oct 12, 2023 @ 4:18pm 
Ah i see i'll change it to 0 (100% chance to produce) and see if it will do anything for the Pantry honey issues.
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