No Jeremy Soule - No Buy

[JERRY]

Unlike some of you, I judge people in terms of the law. TES6 must have Jeremy's Music (and judging by Loadfield, the game will be mediocre at best). I do not care about controversies - if he is not guilty, it means he is not guilty (no matter who says what)

[SpeedFreak1972]

I give you this even without the controversie around him do you think he would making music forever? I mean do you think he does not goes on pension, die, get serious ill , etc and make music forever?

Also a LOT of good game music out there all NOT made by JS

[Beats by Nick Gurrs]

lmao i feel like the biggest problem with es6 is that its gonna be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful but alright jerry my boy

[FauxFurry]

I do not know if a soundtrack produced by him would save TES 6.

[Alex]

You don't buy a game for the soundtrack. It may be an additional argument, but it's certainly not the sole one. Besides, you can add or replace music with mods.

[Ghost]

Has anything actually been legally determined? Any trial whatsoever? Haven't payed any attention to it other than hearing that multiple people have accused him of various things.

In the case of the harassment/assault/rape stuff, the statistics are pretty clear that the vast majority of accusations / reports that are actually made, did happen.

It should also be noted that while they may be used interchangeably, 'not guilty' and 'innocent' are legally distinct and don't mean the same thing.

Originally posted by Peter Muskrat:

lmao i feel like the biggest problem with es6 is that its gonna be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful but alright jerry my boy

^ Honestly, Bethesda seem to have been on a fairly steady decline in quality. My expectations for TES 6 are very low at this point.

I like the guy's music, but it certainly wouldn't be something I'd boycott over, and frankly his cult-like following (is always right, can do no wrong etc.) by some people is pretty damn weird.

[𝑲]

I like his music. I hope he returns to make more. However, I am not confident in TESVI overall. So the point may be moot.

[psychotron666]

Even without the allegations, soule wouldn't be part of it anyways. He sued Bethesda because they did a music of Skyrim concert and he wasn't the one in charge doing the concerts.
Which is just industry standard, Howard Shore isn't suing the LOTR concerts done by orchestra on tour.

[Death Approaches]

JS's epic decades of game scoring has nothing to do with his ♥♥♥♥. You need to compartmentalize here. Bad people can do good things, and good people, bad. Humans are complex and flawed creatures, and social media distorts.

But if you believe in the law, stay off social media and wait for a court decision and stop reading crap you know nothing about, it's he-said/she-said until there's a verdict. Ra*e is a serious fscked up thing and I already don't like the guy from the implication, but I'll leave it to court system and not insta and not Bethesda... the latter knows the implications of exactly what would happen if, after being found guilty, they used him anyway. But I doubt they would, he's adversarial and litigious. that doesn't endear you to your company to put you on flagship projects.

Bethesda may be many things, but they know how to make money, and that would be opening your wallet upside down and shaking it. I doubt they'd notice your -$70usd for not buying it w/o JS being attached to the project, though.

[-={LG}=-]

I wish my life was so placid the only thing I had to worry about is knowing everyone by name who made a computer game. On second thought, no I don't. I think I'm happy with my busy schedule. Besides, it's almost time for my ten mile bike ride, and that always makes things better.

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Originally posted by Ghost:

In the case of the harassment/assault/rape stuff, the statistics are pretty clear that the vast majority of accusations / reports that are actually made, did happen.

Source: Just trust me bro

[Ghost]

Originally posted by JH_98:

Originally posted by Ghost:

In the case of the harassment/assault/rape stuff, the statistics are pretty clear that the vast majority of accusations / reports that are actually made, did happen.

Source: Just trust me bro

You know you could just go to google for like 5 seconds and find numerous government and university sources from all over the world, yeah?

[-={LG}=-]

Originally posted by Ghost:

You know you could just go to google for like 5 seconds and find numerous government and university sources from all over the world, yeah?

So the OP is basically saying, if you don't retain a rapist I'm not buying your game? And it's the guy who did the music that I turned off after the first hour all those years ago? Dang.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by -={LG}=-:

Originally posted by Ghost:

You know you could just go to google for like 5 seconds and find numerous government and university sources from all over the world, yeah?

So the OP is basically saying, if you don't retain a rapist I'm not buying your game?

An alleged one, but yes.

Even disregarding those accusations, he'd already indicated that he wouldn't be involved long before the allegations were made public, has had other issues with Bethesda, and was seemingly replaced by Inon Zur.

Additionally, he's known in the industry to be a bit of pain in the ass to work with in general.

[Chaosium]

Zur made some bangers in Fallout 4, we'll see if he can transpose that into the ES universe

[Death Approaches]

Originally posted by -={LG}=-:

Besides, it's almost time for my ten mile bike ride, and that always makes things better.

I have drank and smoked more in the last 3 days than the last 6 months combined, if I even look at my bike, I'ma puke... I'd probably stumble it pulling off the rack and need stitches. In fact I probably shouldn't be posting... 🥴