Dumb question - why are a lot of people obsessed with the Dark Brotherhood?

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Had this thought randomly occur to me. Almost everyone I have ever met who has played Skyrim, (we're talking dozens of people with only one exception,) has said they love the Dark Brotherhood. Loyal to them, would die for them, favorite faction, Hail Sithis, et cetera. I don't get it, but I would like to.

So if I may ask, what makes the Dark Brotherhood so appealing to so many people?

[Usernamehere]

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What's Dark Brotherhood?

Essentially assassin's guild that's been in the series since Morrowind, joinable since Oblivion. Their questline starts in Windhelm.

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Had this thought randomly occur to me. Almost everyone I have ever met who has played Skyrim, (we're talking dozens of people with only one exception,) has said they love the Dark Brotherhood. Loyal to them, would die for them, favorite faction, Hail Sithis, et cetera. I don't get it, but I would like to.

So if I may ask, what makes the Dark Brotherhood so appealing to so many people?

Who the hell says that about the Dark Brotherhood?

I don't know, I've just seen it around the internet a lot. There was this old creative template thing back around 2013 or so where people would get asked a bunch of questions and they'd be able to draw their answers. Things like "What does your main character look like?" "What are they like as a person?" "Who's your favorite character?" and "What's your favorite faction? and I frickin swear almost all of the filled out versions had Dark Brotherhood as the favorite faction, so much so that the template itself even said and I quote "My Dark Brotherhood sense is tingling..." under "What's your favorite faction?" like the entire place worshipped them and loving them was the default.

But I get the sense that might've been an outlier rather than a good representation of the Skyrim fanbase at large.

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What's Dark Brotherhood?

Essentially assassin's guild that's been in the series since Morrowind, joinable since Oblivion. Their questline starts in Windhelm.

Why are they called Dark Brotherhood? Are women allowed? Are non-redguards allowed?

[Ihateeverybody]

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What's Dark Brotherhood?

Essentially assassin's guild that's been in the series since Morrowind, joinable since Oblivion. Their questline starts in Windhelm.

Daggerfall actually.

[ULTRA]

Because Skyrim is the only TES game they ever played, and in this game, the fighters guild and mages guild are pure crap, the bard college may as well not exist, the civil war gives you no reason to support either side, the thieves guild is a terribly balanced idiot plot, the main campaign consists mainly of regular dungeons plus following robots on a Bethesda walk-and-talk tour, the story DLCs are mostly gigantic long dungeons that will put you to sleep with their monotony, and all this leaves the Dark Brotherhood, representing the playstyle that 90% of people are using because it's the most effective one in the game, and despite its questline's asinine retconning, most people are going to like just sneaking and killing guys in a game about sneaking and killing.

[ULTRA]

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Essentially assassin's guild that's been in the series since Morrowind, joinable since Oblivion. Their questline starts in Windhelm.

Why are they called Dark Brotherhood? Are women allowed? Are non-redguards allowed?

Not only are women allowed but there is a canonical "actually she's a 300 year old vampire" loli among their ranks in Skyrim (no doubt a big boon for Skyrim players)

[FauxFurry]

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Essentially assassin's guild that's been in the series since Morrowind, joinable since Oblivion. Their questline starts in Windhelm.

Why are they called Dark Brotherhood? Are women allowed? Are non-redguards allowed?

Siblinghood of Sithis does not quite have the same ring to it even if it would be more accurate seeing as how there are more members than Nazir the Redguard assassin and more female members other than the Night Mother herself.

[Madao]

dunno, I don't like them myself so I always wipe them out.
Not killing me when they kidnapped me in my sleep is their first and last mistake.

[Ihateeverybody]

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Essentially assassin's guild that's been in the series since Morrowind, joinable since Oblivion. Their questline starts in Windhelm.

Why are they called Dark Brotherhood? Are women allowed? Are non-redguards allowed?

This is from Memory so Fact Check.

So once upon a time in Vardenfall (home of the Dunmer/Dark Elves) there was an organization called the Morag Tong which I think worshipped Mephalla a Daedric Prince. The Society was based on Machavallian Italy so Families Like 5-6, Not really important.

So the Morog Tong were LEGALLY SANCTIONED BY LAW Assasines in Vardenfall. You go to them, name a target, they get a writ and Legally they can kill it. I really don't know the rules in detail, thats just the gist.

So a couple members didn't like rules or whatever and started doing it across Tamriel. In the Daggerfall Days it was just that, a Schism of another organization doing their own thing (NOT LEGALLY). It was similar to the Mages Guild budding off the Psygic Order.

Eventually the Lore evolved where a Guy named Sithis who was Literly Nothing was brought into it and there was a Night Mother who gave him her babies to eat or something.

So nowadays, her body gets carted around and supposedly she talks for Sithis or Something and names the Targets or Clients, Its really not clear to me.

They also seem to have shrunk as an organization. In Daggerfall Days there was a branch on every corner, Oblivion they had one in every town of Cyrodill, Skyrim they have one location.

[FauxFurry]

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dunno, I don't like them myself so I always wipe them out.
Not killing me when they kidnapped me in my sleep is their first and last mistake.

It might be nice if there was something on par with the Penitus Occulatus mod in the base game to make that a more appealing option for Empire loyalist characters.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21061?tab=description

[Madao]

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dunno, I don't like them myself so I always wipe them out.
Not killing me when they kidnapped me in my sleep is their first and last mistake.

It might be nice if there was something on par with the Penitus Occulatus mod in the base game to make that a more appealing option for Empire loyalist characters.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21061?tab=description

eh, before even thinking about whatever implications completing the questline might have,
for me personally, they just never were appealing at all.
I kill when attacked and when attacked only, so my mindset is fundamentally incompatible with the "babies first assassin guild" thing the DB has going.

[ralphtobybob]

Shouldn't this be a question you'd ask the people you've met who are obsessed with the Dark Brotherhood?

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Essentially assassin's guild that's been in the series since Morrowind, joinable since Oblivion. Their questline starts in Windhelm.

Daggerfall actually.

The more you know. Didn't know that.

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Why are they called Dark Brotherhood? Are women allowed? Are non-redguards allowed?

This is from Memory so Fact Check.

So once upon a time in Vardenfall (home of the Dunmer/Dark Elves) there was an organization called the Morag Tong which I think worshipped Mephalla a Daedric Prince. The Society was based on Machavallian Italy so Families Like 5-6, Not really important.

So the Morog Tong were LEGALLY SANCTIONED BY LAW Assasines in Vardenfall. You go to them, name a target, they get a writ and Legally they can kill it. I really don't know the rules in detail, thats just the gist.

So a couple members didn't like rules or whatever and started doing it across Tamriel. In the Daggerfall Days it was just that, a Schism of another organization doing their own thing (NOT LEGALLY). It was similar to the Mages Guild budding off the Psygic Order.

Eventually the Lore evolved where a Guy named Sithis who was Literly Nothing was brought into it and there was a Night Mother who gave him her babies to eat or something.

So nowadays, her body gets carted around and supposedly she talks for Sithis or Something and names the Targets or Clients, Its really not clear to me.

They also seem to have shrunk as an organization. In Daggerfall Days there was a branch on every corner, Oblivion they had one in every town of Cyrodill, Skyrim they have one location.

Sounds about right. I think the kid thing was she was ordered to kill them and did it in the name of Sithis (IIRC that's noted in Oblivion, in a book. She was then run out of the town by the townsfolk)

The reason they shrunk as a faction is because (as Cicero states) more and more places are falling to attacks, and as each "guild" became smaller they were closed and amalgamated with each other to keep some going.
Skyrim only survived this because Astrid cut off contact and ruled her group as (effectively) a entirely separate entity. There are (possibly) other groups run the same way.