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UnlivingEnd 10 de mar. às 1:24
Was Vex someones OC?
No one in the thieves guild can stop ♥♥♥♥ riding her to death
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Originalmente postado por Alex:
Originalmente postado por UnlivingEnd:
They actually do explain why the mages guild closed. People blamed magic users for the oblivion crisis and became suspicious of all of them. As for the references being vague. Yeah that’s what I was talking about. Because Bethesda wants to leave the details of the protagonist up in the air they leave room for every guild quest to have been played by th player. Bethesda has never once canonized any npc doing the guild quests instead of the PC.
They should be bolder though, and at least canonize the previous protagonist in some way. Change it a bit of course. Suggest that the "canonized" version is the product of propaganda, magic, or even a "dragon break". Create a few conflicting versions of the events. Make the versions a matter of politics. Add a conspiracy theory or two. Basically, breath some life into the lore.

But flat out avoiding references hurts immersion worse then any canon.
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Arondil 10 de mar. às 2:01 
Are you... vexed?
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UnlivingEnd 10 de mar. às 4:05 
Originalmente postado por Arondil:
Are you... vexed?
son of a...
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Ilja 10 de mar. às 4:39 
"OC."

I even checked Urban Dictionary and it did not make the acronym any clearer. Probably she was original character of someone, or something.
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UnlivingEnd 10 de mar. às 5:10 
Originalmente postado por Ilja:
"OC."

I even checked Urban Dictionary and it did not make the acronym any clearer. Probably she was original character of someone, or something.
Basically I was asking if she was some writers self insert power fantasy Mary sue
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Alex 10 de mar. às 5:12 
Even if she was, I doubt that anyone would admit to it.
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Yellowbeard 10 de mar. às 9:32 
OC's are foreground characters...with background characters it is more laziness and just using someone you know as a template...which includes one's self image...whether it is a deluded image or not is another matter. So in the end...more Serana than Vex tbh.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheTragicRose
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psychotron666 10 de mar. às 9:57 
Probably. She's probably meant to be the person in history who completes the thieves Guild questline (because the protagonist in canon only ever finishes the main quest and DLC main quests, and it's other people who do each guild quest).
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Rez Elwin 10 de mar. às 10:25 
She is one of the leaders, and probably the only who gets ♥♥♥♥ done. Delvin and Brynjolf seem to have a more administrative role, seeing as they each have a Vault Key and Vex does not.

However, as skilled as she might be, she couldn't get into Goldenglow, something you do as your first job.
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Hypertext Eye 10 de mar. às 10:28 
Originalmente postado por Rez Elwin:
She is one of the leaders, and probably the only who gets ♥♥♥♥ done.
IDK, since I showed up all she does is sit around in the Ragged Flagon.
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Rez Elwin 10 de mar. às 10:36 
Originalmente postado por Hypertext Eye:
Originalmente postado por Rez Elwin:
She is one of the leaders, and probably the only who gets ♥♥♥♥ done.
IDK, since I showed up all she does is sit around in the Ragged Flagon.

Game issue, none of the Factions aside from the Companions ever leave their HQ.
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Ihateeverybody 10 de mar. às 21:18 
Originalmente postado por Rez Elwin:
Originalmente postado por Hypertext Eye:
IDK, since I showed up all she does is sit around in the Ragged Flagon.

Game issue, none of the Factions aside from the Companions ever leave their HQ.

College? Saarthel and then Dwemer Research guy heads out in his specefic quest. Astrid and the Abandoned shack. Gordon Freeman (I can't recall the Guild Heads name) in the Thieves Guild MQ is always out and about on his quest.

As you mentioned Farkas and his two guys are a random encounter fighting a bear. Some Mod I have adds an encounter with Aela and Skjor (maybe Rhea or the other one too) fighting a mammoth.
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UnlivingEnd 10 de mar. às 21:25 
Originalmente postado por psychotron666:
Probably. She's probably meant to be the person in history who completes the thieves Guild questline (because the protagonist in canon only ever finishes the main quest and DLC main quests, and it's other people who do each guild quest).
Interesting headcanon. But Bethesda games go out of the way to keep anything the protagonist does as ambiguous.
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Alex 11 de mar. às 2:13 
Originalmente postado por UnlivingEnd:
Originalmente postado por psychotron666:
Probably. She's probably meant to be the person in history who completes the thieves Guild questline (because the protagonist in canon only ever finishes the main quest and DLC main quests, and it's other people who do each guild quest).
Interesting headcanon. But Bethesda games go out of the way to keep anything the protagonist does as ambiguous.
No, bethesda simply never mentions anything from the previous games' guild questlines. maybe they'll do it differently for TESVI, but I highly doubt that.
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UnlivingEnd 11 de mar. às 2:19 
Originalmente postado por Alex:
Originalmente postado por UnlivingEnd:
Interesting headcanon. But Bethesda games go out of the way to keep anything the protagonist does as ambiguous.
No, bethesda simply never mentions anything from the previous games' guild questlines. maybe they'll do it differently for TESVI, but I highly doubt that.
Uh yeah. That’s what I said.
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Alex 11 de mar. às 2:25 
Originalmente postado por UnlivingEnd:
Uh yeah. That’s what I said.
You said "ambigious". I say that they simply leave it out.

The first would require a certain level of writing, which bethesda doesn't seem to bother with anymore. So, they do the latter.
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