why do people want this game to be darksouls

[Wenda]

im not talking about modders, im talking about people who specifically want es6 and any other future games to just be darksouls. Add dodge roll, force third person in combat, etc. Usually, their issue is with the melee combat being boring but first person melee combat has been done really well in other games and it doesn't need a dodge or, even parry, to work fine and feel good.

[Morgan Fun Gamer]

I haven't really seen anyone say that for Elder Scrolls 6 sorry I have never really seen anyone talk about this for this franchise and I personally wouldn't be a fan of this change to the franchise.

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by Morgan Fun Gamer:

I haven't really seen anyone say that for Elder Scrolls 6 sorry I have never really seen anyone talk about this for this franchise and I personally wouldn't be a fan of this change to the franchise.

Over the years I've seen hundreds of people say they want dark souls combat for this game. Not to mention all the popular mods that so exactly that

[Grinch]

you could dodge roll in Oblivion, it required either Athletics or Acrobatics to be a certain lvl, it gave an insane distance too, perfect for marksmen.
you can semi-parry in Skyrim (and I'm pretty sure in Oblivion) by shield bashing to interrupt attacks, with or without a shield.

[Dimlhugion]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by Morgan Fun Gamer:

I haven't really seen anyone say that for Elder Scrolls 6 sorry I have never really seen anyone talk about this for this franchise and I personally wouldn't be a fan of this change to the franchise.

Over the years I've seen hundreds of people say they want dark souls combat for this game. Not to mention all the popular mods that so exactly that

I mean, if we're going by "popular mods" as metric for estimating what ES6 is going to bring for us, we should reasonably expect their top 3 priorities to be photo-realistic sex, bug fixes, and serviceable UI's.

So you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath or otherwise become anxious over "well, some people on the internet like Dark Souls."

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Over the years I've seen hundreds of people say they want dark souls combat for this game. Not to mention all the popular mods that so exactly that

I mean, if we're going by "popular mods" as metric for estimating what ES6 is going to bring for us, we should reasonably expect their top 3 priorities to be photo-realistic sex, bug fixes, and serviceable UI's.

So you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath or otherwise become anxious over "well, some people on the internet like Dark Souls."

I never said that I expect tes 6 to be dark souls, I said I've seen tons of fans asking for it over the years in response to a person say they've never heard that.

[Dimlhugion]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

I mean, if we're going by "popular mods" as metric for estimating what ES6 is going to bring for us, we should reasonably expect their top 3 priorities to be photo-realistic sex, bug fixes, and serviceable UI's.

So you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath or otherwise become anxious over "well, some people on the internet like Dark Souls."

I never said that I expect tes 6 to be dark souls, I said I've seen tons of fans asking for it over the years in response to a person say they've never heard that.

And that's fine, but my point still stands.

Popular in the context of mods for Skyrim, just means "highly downloaded across a specific unit of time." I'd be more concerned about them hiring USLEEP coders than I would about them converting ES6 to Soulsborne.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by Morgan Fun Gamer:

I haven't really seen anyone say that for Elder Scrolls 6 sorry I have never really seen anyone talk about this for this franchise and I personally wouldn't be a fan of this change to the franchise.

Over the years I've seen hundreds of people say they want dark souls combat for this game. Not to mention all the popular mods that so exactly that

And as many people say they want mods to make it less like dark souls.

[Madao]

I don't want dark souls. I want stats, classes and magic crafting back.

[peppermint hollows]

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

I never said that I expect tes 6 to be dark souls, I said I've seen tons of fans asking for it over the years in response to a person say they've never heard that.

And that's fine, but my point still stands.

Popular in the context of mods for Skyrim, just means "highly downloaded across a specific unit of time." I'd be more concerned about them hiring USLEEP coders than I would about them converting ES6 to Soulsborne.

What's your point? The thread OP didn't say they're worried the game is going to be turned into Dark Souls either...they were just asking why some people want that.

[Steelfleece]

The Elder Souls.

Seriously though, that's a crowded market. So many Souls-likes, compared to simply open-world first-person RPGs that aren't specifically Souls-likes. It seems to me that making TES 6 yet another one would be a bad business decision, but then again bad business decisions seem to be pretty popular among larger developers and producers these days so make of that what you will.

[Wenda]

Originally posted by peppermint hollows:

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

And that's fine, but my point still stands.

Popular in the context of mods for Skyrim, just means "highly downloaded across a specific unit of time." I'd be more concerned about them hiring USLEEP coders than I would about them converting ES6 to Soulsborne.

What's your point? The thread OP didn't say they're worried the game is going to be turned into Dark Souls either...they were just asking why some people want that.

yeah, i was addressing the stigma of first person melee combat being inherently bad and also that a complete genre rehaul would be overkill

[R4ndomG4mer]

Mechanically, I can kind of see the appeal of Souls-like games. My problem with them is the absurd disparity between how much damage the player can take/dish out vs. the opponents with enormous healthbars and attacks that instakill you.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if the next Elder Scrolls had combat more akin to, say, Horizon Zero Dawn/Forbidden West. That way, things such as timing, parrying, dodging are still important to the gameplay, but it wouldn't be completely devastating if your timing is just slightly off once, and you don't have to start the whole battle over because of it.

Souls-like enjoyers are welcome to have at it, but most people aren't masochists and simply don't want to struggle through one fight dozens of times before finally winning. Also, just for me, personally, even if I do eventually beat a section of a game that i'm struggling with, after a certain point there's no longer any sense of gratification or accomplishment. I just resent and hate myself for not being able to do it sooner.

[Dimlhugion]

Originally posted by peppermint hollows:

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

And that's fine, but my point still stands.

Popular in the context of mods for Skyrim, just means "highly downloaded across a specific unit of time." I'd be more concerned about them hiring USLEEP coders than I would about them converting ES6 to Soulsborne.

What's your point? The thread OP didn't say they're worried the game is going to be turned into Dark Souls either...they were just asking why some people want that.

My point is that the OP's fears are entirely unfounded.

Originally posted by Wenda:

Originally posted by peppermint hollows:

What's your point? The thread OP didn't say they're worried the game is going to be turned into Dark Souls either...they were just asking why some people want that.

yeah, i was addressing the stigma of first person melee combat being inherently bad and also that a complete genre rehaul would be overkill

Your fears are entirely unfounded.

EDIT: to clarify, no, you are not "just asking WHY" because you already know EXACTLY why. You literally posted it yourself:

Originally posted by Wenda:

Usually, their issue is with the melee combat being boring

You KNOW "why" and you don't AGREE with them. Which is fine. But it isn't going to happen either way, so there's little point to posting AT ALL unless you just literally like saying "hey, I think this way."

[Wenda]

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

Originally posted by peppermint hollows:

What's your point? The thread OP didn't say they're worried the game is going to be turned into Dark Souls either...they were just asking why some people want that.

My point is that the OP's fears are entirely unfounded.

Originally posted by Wenda:

yeah, i was addressing the stigma of first person melee combat being inherently bad and also that a complete genre rehaul would be overkill

Your fears are entirely unfounded.

EDIT: to clarify, no, you are not "just asking WHY" because you already know EXACTLY why. You literally posted it yourself:

Originally posted by Wenda:

Usually, their issue is with the melee combat being boring

You KNOW "why" and you don't AGREE with them. Which is fine. But it isn't going to happen either way, so there's little point unless you just literally like saying "hey, I think this way."

are you ok?

[Dimlhugion]

Originally posted by Wenda:

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

My point is that the OP's fears are entirely unfounded.




Your fears are entirely unfounded.

EDIT: to clarify, no, you are not "just asking WHY" because you already know EXACTLY why. You literally posted it yourself:



You KNOW "why" and you don't AGREE with them. Which is fine. But it isn't going to happen either way, so there's little point unless you just literally like saying "hey, I think this way."

are you ok?

No, actually. I just won the lottery and I'm mad about it.