ES6

[Orim]

Reposting this from a Starfield thread (since it might likely be closed: Regarding all the unspoken AND written fears and concerns about HOW, EXACTLY is ES6 'coming along':

Use the creation engine, and quietly MAKE ES6- like Fallout London- if THEY Can do it (i.e. make Fallout London) so can YOU do it (make ES6)..or something akin to Forgotten Stories Enderal). We now know its possible..X2...so again..what's holdin you back? Fear???? of what...Enderal was published, and so was Fallout London.

For love of the story, for love of the experience (exploration, discovery, self -reflection, agrandizement, recognizing and (amplifying or resolving character flaws and weaknesses)- you can DO EEEET!!!!!

I've said it before- I gave the basic synopsis- the ACTUAL return of the Dwemer, the end (death?) of all gods, as observed/perceived from the perspective of a ...dog....a ...talking dog...after it ..visits a certain sanitarium..just after witnessing a screaming/flaming purple hazed ...statue (that's NOT truly a statue) come crashing/smashing into the ground at the base of the White Gold tower.

NO ONE WANTS ES6 JUST to be about yet ANOTHER lesser know/unexplored land mass in Tamriel such as Hammerfell- ES (and excuse me for being particular, but NOT ESO- I truly HATE ESO compared to ES, for any one of a NUMBER of reasons) was always only EVER about the story, and hearing the story (or experiencing it)- THIS time from the perspective ..of a dog...well..that WOULD be different.

I WANT to hear the dog's tail......NOT bloody well explore Hammerfell....6 YEARS FROM NOW..or worse...- and if this is in the wrong forums..i'll repost in Skyrim....Thanks for 'reading'/listening

[Skumboni]

The place for this post is on the Bethesda forum as nobody from the company reads this. And if it is so easy to write that game, come back and let us know when you have it finished.

[Orim]

The place for the post is actually HERE- I''m NOT trying to appeal to Bethesda staff or employees- in fact just the opposite, and if Fallout London continues to garner ever increasing appeal, then an ES6 'MOD' overhaul IS VERY LIKELY going to happen (there are already SEVERAL completed ones with the PERFECT mechanics, details and improvements that could be combined or borrowed from to actually accomplish this- the 'DWEMER mystery trapped in time mod, the abandoned house/mine mod, the BRUMA new lands mod, to name a few)

I've got the basic plot synopsis, the basic mechanics are there (INCLUDING several elements from the the official DLCS and creation club elements).

SO..we can either sit on our duffs and commiserate about HOW WONDERFUL it will be to tour HAmmerfell. 6 YEARS FROM NOW.........OR....we can start to work on...the dog's ...tail.....

Your move....apathy or action.

[Steelfleece]

What's wrong with another Elder Scrolls game set in Hammerfell? Just imagine people demanding a mod to remove 80% of the game's population.

[Orim]

Its NOT the location- its the STORY...oi..

[rabureta]

Nah.

[Orim]

Apathy or action....no other choices left

[Arondil]

They need to strike a balance between making the game interesting for players who have been following the lore, and not making it confusing or nonsensical for players who have not been following the lore.

I had not played any ES game at all before I started Morrowind (yes, started - I have not finished it). Skyrim managed to attract me because lore was alluded to but it did not get into the way of enjoying the game. If ES6 were to follow your ideas for a story I would most likely write it off as incomprehensible and bloated with unnecessary concepts.

(No offense.)

[Dimlhugion]

Originally posted by william.avery.robinson:

Apathy or action....no other choices left

I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

Are you asking for someone to help make your story into a Skyrim mod? Are you asking people to demand something from Bethesda? Something else?

Apathy or Action is going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy unless you elaborate a bit. Without any explanation of any kind, you're just going to get a massive shrug from most people.

[alexander_dougherty]

It will not be the return of the Dwemer.

The return of the Dwemer is an often touted idea, but when you think about it, all the other races have moved on, so it would be all out war between them and the Dwemer... The Dwemer can't accept other races as equals, and the other races have the history books to prove it, so won't wait for the Dwemer to strike first.... Given that, we already know the rough outline of that story, so it will be an act of desperation for Bethesda to do it.

Any other story has to be an improvement, and Bethesda know this...
The location is mostly irrelevant, merely setting the backdrop to the story/plot. Amd as BG3 recently showed, a good story makes the game.

[fenlander]

The dwemer are gone. They messed with Chime and deleted themselves from the Universe. If they did return they would be a super advanced sci-fi race which would destroy all other races in Tamriel. They are not the good guys.

From a dogs perspective? Go and make it then.

My main worry is that Bethesda will insert pronouns and trans people into the world, then gaslight those who disagree with them. I just want a good story, good gameplay, and characters I like. Recently I have hated the NPCs from Starfield and Dragon Age Veilguard, and wished I could dispose of them like I can in Rogue Trader and BG3.

BG3 and Rogue Trader has proven that games can be carried by good stories, but I think Bethesda has been sniffing their own farts for too long in California in the echo chamber of woke.

[Orim]

But the DWEMER ...WON'T be the same- they were attempting a divine ascension- who's to say that they failed...and perhaps they are either- clearing 'house' of pests (i.e. the gods), or seeking vengeance for being held back/denied...AND....you GET to play as a DWEMER- as a race and a class..and discover once and for all what it MEANT, what it MEANS and what it WILL/MIGHT MEAN to be a DWEMER...This story arc has NOT been pursued at all that much length...YET...

[c.jackharkness]

folon will never happen , they gave up . a lot of us declined that upgrade and they still ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off and did not release it , team folon got me hyped and then donkey punched me in the balls .

[Orim]

The DWEMER are NOT gone- ask Bagrum, fool....and the DOG 'perspective' ISN'T intended as a 360 24/7- its merely for the NARRATIVE- to satisfy NOT being DEI...OR being DEI enough. This time you can play as a 'current resident' of Tamriel...or as...something else...returning....or BOTH...and get to experience the main story from TWO distinctly different perspectives/directions...

[Orim]

You HAVE to get Fallout London through GOG, AND use an earlier version of Fallout 4. Fallout London WAS released- go look it up. And likely the conflicts with the current Fallout 4 version will be rectified with time and patience...

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by william.avery.robinson:

But the DWEMER ...WON'T be the same- they were attempting a divine ascension- who's to say that they failed...and perhaps they are either- clearing 'house' of pests (i.e. the gods), or seeking vengeance for being held back/denied...AND....you GET to play as a DWEMER- as a race and a class..and discover once and for all what it MEANT, what it MEANS and what it WILL/MIGHT MEAN to be a DWEMER...This story arc has NOT been pursued at all that much length...YET...

It hasn't been persued for a good reason, read the books in game, they were a weird racist hive minded group of steam punks, they are not what you think, and I doubt it would be what you want.

Originally posted by william.avery.robinson:

The DWEMER are NOT gone- ask Bagrum,

The Dwemer are long gone, a mystery never intended to be solved just pondered