Uthgerd and the Companions

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

I'd like to know if there is a mod that allows you as the Harbinger of the Companions to allow Uthgerd to join, as one of my favorite followers I'd like to allow her to have the shot she deserves to join the group.

[DrNewcenstein]

She had her shot. She killed dude with a punch. They don't need that kind of negativity, with their random "brawling for donuts" spurts. She's likely to punch the wolf spirit out of them.

Now that wouldn't be a bad mod:
Vilkas: "I think I'm ready to give up the beast power and gifts of Hircine. I want to go to Sovngarde when I die."
Uthgerd: "Hold reeeeeeal still."
Vilkas: "Shor's balls! Sovngarde is even more beautiful than I'd imagined! Wait, what? No....I meant...like, after a long life, maybe when I'm as old as Kodlak....damn!"
Hircine: "Dafuk you doin' here?"
Wolf Spirit: "OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! OW!"

[stmpunk]

could be done but it would be a mess... Either create recruitment system for the Companions (best solution - but extremely hard work to create schedules for new recruits) or a weird script that made her join the faction (but wouldn't change anything if the AI wasn't updated to something similar to what we see with the Blades);
Thing is that the Companions do not thoroughly seek to recruit people, people seek them to join, it's more like an anarchic mini-society where everyone sort of does as they please.

Being Harbinger means you give council and lead the companions on major efforts, but Harbingers aren't exactly guild leaders.

As for the AI package, even if done perfectly, she'd still miss voice lines for being a member unless Bethesda had some sort of cut quest that did that (although i've never heard of such a thing).

As Lore goes she killed the guy violently on purpose, it wasn't like she was "taken by the heat of the moment" nor "accidentally" killed her sparring match, it was very likely it was intentional hence why she was refused. Thing is that nobody makes it clear, but there's the underlying factor that they are Werewolves, if they don't kill during sparring even with the beast blood running in them, Uthred probably has mental issues, a psychotic nutjob so to speak. Now there's an interesting Idea, wish we had shivering Isles for Skyrim, send her to papa sheo so she could be shaped into her craziness!

[ralphtobybob]

She's too violent for the human heart eating mindless killers who belong to the Companions.
Or something.

[stmpunk]

Originally posted by ralphtobybob:

She's too violent for the human heart eating mindless killers who belong to the Companions.
Or something.

As I've said in my reply, she lies to the LDB, she's actually a psycho. Companions wouldn't mind the killing if it was an actual accident, they are werewolves and extremely violent themselves. Even the "unbroken" nickname hints at her madness 😉


It's just harder for us to see it due to Uthred not being a fully flushed character, once she becomes a follower she becomes a zombie (much like all vanilla followers)

[lukandroll]

It was an accident, there's far worse people in Tamriel

[stmpunk]

Originally posted by Luk:

It was an accident, there's far worse people in Tamriel

"I'll carry your burdens"

[FauxFurry]

Joining the Companions would get in the way of her true destiny as a steward for a house in the middle of the forest (or become a Blade or something).

[stmpunk]

Originally posted by FauxFurry:

Joining the Companions would get in the way of her true destiny as a steward for a house in the middle of the forest (or become a Blade or something).

if you do not supress attacks on manors, the best Stewards are mages (just a tip)
She does well as a Blade (1h+block+heavy armor) - best blades are ususally Inigo/Onmund (heavy armor + magic), Housecarls (never do it, it's not a clever move), Belrand (spellblade hireling), Arthis/Ria/Torvar (Companions), Celann (Dawnguard), Vorstag (Hireling), Golldir (post quest follower), Kharjo (Khajit follower after quest), Ogol (Orsimer), Borghak (Orsimer), Cosnach (brawl).

Personally I prefer to pickup fools who have no where to live after they become potential followers (Golldir/Erandur/Derkeethus) - although it isn't the best setup for blades, Golldir makes a great tank (all his skills fit with the blades outfit) Illia too, but I prefer her as a steward.

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

What are you guys talking about, I simply wanted to know if there was a mod that did what I asked I don't want your opinion on the ethics behind the choice I want to know if there is a mod that does that if not I just use cheats to add her to companions faction and call it a day

[SpeedFreak1972]

I don't know of such mod, however add her to the faction will not really solve the problem. I mean ok she's in the faction now, but her day to day routine is still the same.

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Seriously nobody tell me what choice is wrong or right: I fight for the Empire after all I'll never join the Stormcloaks either so don't talk about lore here its my game and I'll play it however I want to: I just wanted to know if there was a mod that achieved what I wanted

[SpeedFreak1972]

seriously I didn't, but i guess you'll figure it out yourself

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

The day to day routine isn't an issue I use Uthgerd as one of my many followers using EFF so I'm just going to have following me around all the time

[stmpunk]

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Seriously nobody tell me what choice is wrong or right: I fight for the Empire after all I'll never join the Stormcloaks either so don't talk about lore here its my game and I'll play it however I want to: I just wanted to know if there was a mod that achieved what I wanted

that's a bit rude and rough, but okay.
Lorewise I've played everything, even thalmor, so there's no "correct way" to play, when we discuss lore generally it's speculating about what would or wouldn't be canon. Personally I dislike the empire on a macro level, but on a micro level being part of it is super fun. I also think Ulfric is a incompetent sycophant, but I still often side with stormcloaks when interpreting toons that have deep hatred towards elves, or thalmor, or the empire itself. Doesn't mean anything, so do not worry.