CTD Question

[Duke Ramza YT]

So yes I have mods, but the game works fine. Heres where its weird
I can start a new game, no issues, all the mods work I can go wherever for however long.

then when I save and inevitably close the game, the next time i start skyrim and load all the menus stop working and I CTD. can still play fine but if I bring up favorites or settings or try to even pause it CTD.

BUT once again i can start a new game fine etc etc.

Is my game not saving correctly?

[Alex]

1. Are you using full saves, or quick/auto-saves? If it's the latter, for how long, and how often were you using them?

2. Check how big your old saves are.

3. Also, did you uninstall any mods on this old save?

[Death Approaches]

incredibly common occurrence with mod users, especially impatient ones; it could be literally anything to do with mods. one is when you mixed up downloads and grabbed an LE mod and stuffed it in your SE load order, or a pre-1130 mod in 1130/1170 with the wrong header; game works fine, once, but now the save is unloadable, even trying right after saving it, even a tiny brand-new game just exiting helgen on the way to riverwood.

if it's crashing the UI simply trying to pull up the menu, I would start with those relevant .dll mods, but that's more a hunch from past troubleshooting than anything. SKSE makes logs, they're in your save location under SKSE\ I'd start my reading there.

[Duke Ramza YT]

Originally posted by Alex:

1. Are you using full saves, or quick/auto-saves? If it's the latter, for how long, and how often were you using them?

2. Check how big your old saves are.

3. Also, did you uninstall any mods on this old save?

both, not long im talking less than 24 hours between playing/saving/loading
so often not even at whiterun yet because i have to keep restarting with no uninstalling. These are multiple new saves 3-5 of them.

Originally posted by Death Approaches:

incredibly common occurrence with mod users, especially impatient ones; it could be literally anything to do with mods. one is when you mixed up downloads and grabbed an LE mod and stuffed it in your SE load order, or a pre-1130 mod in 1130/1170 with the wrong header; game works fine, once, but now the save is unloadable, even trying right after saving it, even a tiny brand-new game just exiting helgen on the way to riverwood.

if it's crashing the UI simply trying to pull up the menu, I would start with those relevant .dll mods, but that's more a hunch from past troubleshooting than anything. SKSE makes logs, they're in your save location under SKSE\ I'd start my reading there.

I wont deny i have messed up with the whole SE/LE mods but i fixed them and checked. I am currently starting my 8th new game to see if getting rid of some mods will fix it but you described it very well regarding saves on the way to riverwood lol

[Fear2288]

Posting your modlist may help, but I’d recommend grabbing CLA SSE.

It’s a crash log analyzer that will translate your crash logs into something much more comprehensible for us normal people.

It’ll identify what is most likely causing the crash, and provide solutions if it can.

[Alex]

1. Don't rely on auto or quicksaves. Using them exclusively is just bound to cause savegame corruption.
2. Sort your mods with LOOT, then read its output summary. It will tell you about LE mods, incompatibilites, missing prerequisites or necessary patches.

[Duke Ramza YT]

I have crassh logs but im unclear on the issue described, I had thought that call stack would have a mod in it causing the issue but to me it reads theres an issue with the game itself? I will try not using quicksave

Skyrim SSE v1.6.1170
CrashLoggerSSE v1-15-0-0 Oct 12 2024 11:33:37

Unhandled exception "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" at 0x7FF6F22BDD0E SkyrimSE.exe+103DD0E or [r10+rcx*4], eax
Exception Flags: 0x00000000
Number of Parameters: 2
Access Violation: Tried to read memory at 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

SYSTEM SPECS:
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home v10.0.19045
CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor
GPU #1: Nvidia GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070]
GPU #2: Nvidia GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070]
GPU #3: Microsoft Basic Render Driver
PHYSICAL MEMORY: 9.08 GB/15.95 GB
GPU MEMORY: 2.07/7.08 GB

PROBABLE CALL STACK:
[ 0] 0x7FF6F22BDD0E SkyrimSE.exe+103DD0E -> 84793+0x7E or [r10+rcx*4], eax
[ 1] 0x7FF6F22BE1B6 SkyrimSE.exe+103E1B6 -> 84795+0x466 mov rax, [rsp+0x60]
[ 2] 0x7FF6F22BE249 SkyrimSE.exe+103E249 -> 84796+0x39 test rax, rax
[ 3] 0x7FF6F22BD77A SkyrimSE.exe+103D77A -> 84785+0x3A test rax, rax
[ 4] 0x7FF6F23E0E7B SkyrimSE.exe+1160E7B -> 89672+0xCB mov r13, rax
[ 5] 0x7FF6F23E0871 SkyrimSE.exe+1160871 -> 89664+0x41 test al, al
[ 6] 0x7FF6F236B0D7 SkyrimSE.exe+10EB0D7 -> 87852+0x177 mov [rbx+0x38], rax
[ 7] 0x7FF6F236B240 SkyrimSE.exe+10EB240 -> 87853+0xC0 mov rdi, rax
[ 8] 0x7FF6F236A279 SkyrimSE.exe+10EA279 -> 87834+0x1B9 cmp byte ptr [rsp+0x50], 0x00
[ 9] 0x7FF6F224995B SkyrimSE.exe+0FC995B -> 82848+0xDB mov [rsp+0x58], rax
[10] 0x7FF6F2247457 SkyrimSE.exe+0FC7457 -> 82807+0x57 mov rax, [rdi]
[11] 0x7FF6F2248DF0 SkyrimSE.exe+0FC8DF0 -> 82830+0x190 mov rax, rbx
[12] 0x7FF6F226BA7E SkyrimSE.exe+0FEBA7E -> 83350+0x17E mov rbx, rax
[13] 0x7FF6F2261945 SkyrimSE.exe+0FE1945 -> 83250+0x39B5 mov r13d, [rsp+0x40]
[14] 0x7FF6F225DF83 SkyrimSE.exe+0FDDF83 -> 83249+0x23 add rsp, 0x48
[15] 0x7FF6F229C92B SkyrimSE.exe+101C92B -> 84146+0x2B mov al, 0x01
[16] 0x7FF6F2285743 SkyrimSE.exe+1005743 -> 83793+0xB3 lea rcx, [rsp+0x20]
[17] 0x7FF6F2282C93 SkyrimSE.exe+1002C93 -> 83766+0x403 mov rcx, r15
[18] 0x7FF6F22D8F74 SkyrimSE.exe+1058F74 -> 85301+0x104 mov rcx, rdi
[19] 0x7FF6F22D8E25 SkyrimSE.exe+1058E25 -> 85300+0x85 mov rcx, rbx
[20] 0x7FF6F22302CE SkyrimSE.exe+0FB02CE -> 82325+0x1BE mov rbx, rax
[21] 0x7FF6F1B96411 SkyrimSE.exe+0916411 -> 51532+0xA1 mov dword ptr [rsi+0x20], 0x06
[22] 0x7FF6F1B987F1 SkyrimSE.exe+09187F1 -> 51559+0x61 nop
[23] 0x7FF6F22245DA SkyrimSE.exe+0FA45DA -> 82082+0x63A mov rbx, rax
[24] 0x7FF6F1952399 SkyrimSE.exe+06D2399 -> 39042+0x19 mov rcx, [0x00007FF6F3376A00]
[25] 0x7FF6F1F77888 SkyrimSE.exe+0CF7888 -> 69378+0xD8 mov ecx, [rbx+0x0C]
[26] 0x7FF6F1F77E51 SkyrimSE.exe+0CF7E51 -> 69380+0x361 mov r15d, eax
[27] 0x7FF6F1F761DA SkyrimSE.exe+0CF61DA -> 69344+0x8A movzx eax, byte ptr [rbx+0xA74]
[28] 0x7FF6F1F50DBD SkyrimSE.exe+0CD0DBD -> 68445+0x3D mov rcx, [0x00007FF6F444C318]
[29] 0x7FF87D277374 KERNEL32.DLL+0017374
[30] 0x7FF87F1BCC91 ntdll.dll+004CC91

REGISTERS:
RAX 0x80000000 (size_t) [2147483648]
RCX 0x7FFFFFFFFFFFFFF (size_t) [576460752303423487]
RDX 0x1F (size_t) [31]
RBX 0x274B51C0000 (void*)
RSP 0x9ECF9FEAE0 (void*)
RBP 0x1 (size_t) [1]
RSI 0x2731B722E50 (void*)
RDI 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF (size_t) [uint: 18446744073709551615 int: -1]
R8 0x7FFFFFFFFFFFFFF (size_t) [576460752303423487]
R9 0x1F (size_t) [31]
R10 0x274B51C0000 (void*)
R11 0x7FF6F1280000 (void*)
R12 0x274AD1C0000 (void*)
R13 0xFFFFFFFFFFFF0000 (size_t) [uint: 18446744073709486080 int: -65536]
R14 0x10000 (size_t) [65536]
R15 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF (size_t) [uint: 18446744073709551615 int: -1]

[Ilja]

Steam does not create drop lists, so just edit spoiler tags off.

Feel free to use Quick- and autosaves (if latter does not crash your game), but remember to make full saves as well.

I am using quick saves as "on go" saves, between steady full saves.
<Full Save> I am going to Dustman Cairn.
<Quick Save> Wait... are there saber cats around?
<Full Save> We are entering in to cairn.
<Quick Save> Are you my mommy?
<Quick Load> TF was that? Go home Skyrim, you are drunk.
<Full Save> We are at the sanctum door..

[Alex]

Okay, posting the log in clear text, but spoiler'ed was probably the worst way to do it. I haven't even thought of such an abomination. Congrats. You've reached a new low.

Anyway:
- Sort your mod list with LOOT, and post its summary
- Install a proper crash logger (as described above), and post its output as well.

[Altbert]

And post your full crashlog. The above part of the crashlog doesn't tell us anything beside an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION, which could be caused by anything. There is also no need to publish the complete crashlog as many lines in the crashlog are meaningless to most of us, if not to all of us. See the following guide to see what to publish and what not:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243076806