Arcwind

[dryadsdad]

OK, I'm a Skyrim novice. I hadn't heard of the Arcwind glitch until it happened to me. I decided as a meta-quest I'd collect as many Words as possible via the graybeard I think of as Arnie. I got stymied after completing Arcwind in what seems to be a famous glitch I'm surprised survives in a 14 year old game.

Anyway, the console command I read in the Wiki did nothing so I had to revert to an old save and try Arnie again. Luckily my hunch was correct and his Whispers are randomly generated. I got a different location this time.

Is the Arcwind glitch solved? As I said, the Wiki's command line fix didn't fix.

[Elf On A Hook]

Originally posted by dryadsdad:

OK, I'm a Skyrim novice. I hadn't heard of the Arcwind glitch until it happened to me. I decided as a meta-quest I'd collect as many Words as possible via the graybeard I think of as Arnie. I got stymied after completing Arcwind in what seems to be a famous glitch I'm surprised survives in a 14 year old game.

Anyway, the console command I read in the Wiki did nothing so I had to revert to an old save and try Arnie again. Luckily my hunch was correct and his Whispers are randomly generated. I got a different location this time.

Is the Arcwind glitch solved? As I said, the Wiki's command line fix didn't fix.

sadly you can get sent to arcwind several times among learning dragon walls via quests from the greybeards. not fixed . i do belive its the only wall that can be given as go find its wall word after already learning it . its akin to the vampire quest that rotates who to turn into vampire . its definitely infuriating as someones whose kept playing since release to see it hasnt been fixed and sadly sometimes reloading to the save before you might get it over n over or be lucky and it might change ( ive had several many days/hours played into games where it wouldnt change and i would have to legit start over entirely since even 55-6 saves back before it'd happen for me. at least some issues like companions radiant quest for curing farkas and vilkas there is known way to push it to setting itself via farkas cured then vilkas (even with my poor memory retention with my epeilepsy and seizures i remember that one is f before v (alphabetical to make sure it doesnt glitch)) though even that one ive had where theraidant quest wouldnt show up for farkas but did for vilkas leaving the game at a glitched spot (was a fix i found but was weird so cant remember it atm ) as for arcwind ive tried several patterns like dont find it til end (though if your told to do it early on and it pops up later your screwed) or do it first and hope n pray it doesnt recomend it and such ugh. one thing i did notice that works (least has usualy for me ) is when learning a word from the dragon walls DO NOT LEAVE MOVE OR STOP STARING AT THE WORD: UNTIL its not glowing even then wait 30 seconds longer . ive read its possible that that is the fix to make sure its recognized via the game that its completed (idk if true but it does seem to work - my last few play throughs no issues with arcwind) however games ive rushed and one says learned ive left and not waited those games all have had me resent to arcwind and bugged. not 100% sure but thats my take on it thus far . sorry so much typed and caps but hopefully someone else can deny or confirm this as ive found it . but ik its not fixed bug and still can happen.

[dryadsdad]

Thanks for the advice. I have been turning away from the word too early. I'm now off to my alternate word.

I suppose I'll get this specific quest again. It'd not be worrisome if there was some way including a console command I can use to close the quest as completed.

[Elf On A Hook]

Originally posted by dryadsdad:

Thanks for the advice. I have been turning away from the word too early. I'm now off to my alternate word.

I suppose I'll get this specific quest again. It'd not be worrisome if there was some way including a console command I can use to close the quest as completed.

yea ik sadly thats onyl thing ive found that works or seems to (if do fresh play through try my trick see i works as well for you )
best of luck

[alexander_dougherty]

Save before you ask Arngeir for words, that way if Arcwind comes up you can load the save and try again (the words is chosen from a list of words available to you at that point).

Also save before you do radiant quests for the guilds, so if you get an quest you don't want you can load the save and try again.

[Elf On A Hook]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Save before you ask Arngeir for words, that way if Arcwind comes up you can load the save and try again (the words is chosen from a list of words available to you at that point).

Also save before you do radiant quests for the guilds, so if you get an quest you don't want you can load the save and try again.

sadly some things are still given with quests radiant and word walls . ive had several saves before and still was given same quest every time .

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Elf On A Hook:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Save before you ask Arngeir for words, that way if Arcwind comes up you can load the save and try again (the words is chosen from a list of words available to you at that point).

Also save before you do radiant quests for the guilds, so if you get an quest you don't want you can load the save and try again.

sadly some things are still given with quests radiant and word walls . ive had several saves before and still was given same quest every time .

If it's a word wall, level up some more, and do other stuff, I've had several periods in the same playthrough were the next word walls weren't available until I levelled up some (I might have unlocked areas by doing guild quests.... I wasn't paying attention at the time)

[Elf On A Hook]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by Elf On A Hook:

sadly some things are still given with quests radiant and word walls . ive had several saves before and still was given same quest every time .

If it's a word wall, level up some more, and do other stuff, I've had several periods in the same playthrough were the next word walls weren't available until I levelled up some (I might have unlocked areas by doing guild quests.... I wasn't paying attention at the time)

leveling up does not unlock other word walls . ive gone to them at lowest possible level to get through enemies and at level 80s before no change just heads up

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Elf On A Hook:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

If it's a word wall, level up some more, and do other stuff, I've had several periods in the same playthrough were the next word walls weren't available until I levelled up some (I might have unlocked areas by doing guild quests.... I wasn't paying attention at the time)

leveling up does not unlock other word walls . ive gone to them at lowest possible level to get through enemies and at level 80s before no change just heads up

and I have had Arngeir giving me nothing but arcwind point for ages, I do some quests and he gave me other word walls... I'm talking about loading the save thirty or so times before I gave up for a bit.... playing the game unlocked more words, I didn't pay attention so I don't know why, but it did....

You can also just go to the wikis and note down the location of each word wall, which is probably easier

[Elf On A Hook]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by Elf On A Hook:

leveling up does not unlock other word walls . ive gone to them at lowest possible level to get through enemies and at level 80s before no change just heads up

and I have had Arngeir giving me nothing but arcwind point for ages, I do some quests and he gave me other word walls... I'm talking about loading the save thirty or so times before I gave up for a bit.... playing the game unlocked more words, I didn't pay attention so I don't know why, but it did....

You can also just go to the wikis and note down the location of each word wall, which is probably easier

yea on few playthroughs i did that . i have epilpsey and seizures so memory is spotty often even though ive played skyrim over last 8-10 yrs ik most would have stuff down pat . but i try to just explore then later do the other stuff and hopefully avoid word wall quests . this last time Agneir was like nothing i can teach you lol was funny . most recent run i avoided turning in dragon stone tablet and all (1st dragon fight at tower) to see if was able level up and craft gear /smith enough plus enchant and idk why but guess always thought it wouldnt let you idk why again but almost made game way way to easy n breezed through it felt kinda :( but i tried it mainly cause at times ive had runs way early on after the dragons start to spawn where idk if glitch or wasnt (even in unmodded runs) where id have 2 dragons spawn at same time and attack me when super early game and once or twice had 2 spawn while fighting a 3rd flew by and i was like bugger all im fkd (level like 20s ) so ran quests oppsitely i normally do .

[dryadsdad]

I so far have gotten two more walls without Arcwind recurring. Good luck, I suppose. My last resort is seeking cheaters through the Wiki because my policy is not to cheat the game if at all possible.

I still cannot account for the company maintaining this glitch for something like 15 years.

Like others, I always quick save before asking A for a wall now. If he again mentions Arcwind, my strategy is to memorize its location, reload the quick save and travel there w/o it being a quest. I'd pick the word up which would not itself glitch but it would remove Arcwind from A's wall inventory.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by dryadsdad:

I still cannot account for the company maintaining this glitch for something like 15 years.

I think it's beyond their ability to fix, at least without totally rewriting the game (as in remaking it from scratch)

[dryadsdad]

After another word wall, I'm in the Arcwind loop trying for another. Arcwind seems to be isolated. I needed to use Claravoidance to find it initially. I want to try to find it outside a quest, acquire the word and thus remove it from Arnier's inventory. Here's hopes I can find it outside the quest. If this works, I'll post here.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by dryadsdad:

After another word wall, I'm in the Arcwind loop trying for another. Arcwind seems to be isolated. I needed to use Claravoidance to find it initially. I want to try to find it outside a quest, acquire the word and thus remove it from Arnier's inventory. Here's hopes I can find it outside the quest. If this works, I'll post here.

sigh....
it won't work.
The quest is infamous for being bugged, even if you get the word the quest doesn't complete, you have to use a console command to complete the quest, which usually prevents you getting another....

[dryadsdad]

I tried it before seeing your post. Yeah, I got the word but as you said, it still won't clear.

I saw a post somewhere that getting the word at Northwind would clear things so I set out to do that. I did get the word but Arnier still points me to Arcwind. Where can I find the console command? I'm at the point of trying and if it then glitches Arneir, then I'm no worse off. Thanks if you can give me the command or point me to it.

[alexander_dougherty]

Google "skyrim arcwind point cleared" to get

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