I hate Maven Black-briar

[dvdbillen]

Also, what about how people who do jobs for her make a "great deal of money"? The only job you do for her is the rat-infestation quest and last time I got, like, an iron sword with a cheesy enchantment, (15 points of shock damage). Worth about 150 septim to sell and I wouldn't fight a skeever with it. She pays like crap. She treats you like something she wishes she hadn't looked at before flushing. The only person who treats you worse is Mercer, but at least you get to kill him.

[Eternie]

I don't like Mercer and when I get to kill him I do quite enjoy that, however you'd have to respect Mercer for being ABLE to steal the skeleton key from Nocturnal in the first place.

(Like the story of Nocturnals Cowl, stolen by the grey Fox that book and story was an inspiration obviously to Mercer as well.) He also stole her skeleton key. Cut off her contact with the nightingales and was having a great time stealing anything he liked. Just that Maven was pressuring him about the thieves guild.

To be able to do steal the skeleton key without her knowledge and go on a crime spree developing his skills with it's inate abilities. Then to keep doing that without Nocturnal sending her agents after him. For Gallus and Karliah to not know that the sepulchure had been desecrated by Mercer. Several plot holes that you can drive a bus through.

But I'd consider he achieved more than he gets credit for.

[Kenzie]

Origineel geplaatst door Eternie:

[...]Several plot holes that you can drive a bus through.[...]

a yaw bus?

[dvdbillen]

Origineel geplaatst door SkipSandwichDX:

:3 in this game, i kind of liked anyone that was an a-hole, but still not hostile/kill worthy. (like maven). i'm a sucker for rude/full-of-piss-&-vinegar types though. the sweet-bubblegum npcs are the ones that grind my gears for some reason idk...

I relate to what you're saying. I like salty people myself. I think what grates me about some of the rude people in the thieves guild is how it forces your lines and sets you up for them to hand you your ass: "Is there anything you don't charge for?". If I could have attitude back then I might get into the role play. But I must select that line from a list of one.

In fact, that's my complaint about the thieves guild all-around, (even though it's fun). It really forces your character to be a particular personality which makes it less re-playable. The dark brotherhood is the opposite, even though the quests are not as fun. You can play as any type, race, creature you want your character to be, as long as they're willing to murder for cash, (which, granted, irl would be a pretty defining attribute, but is kind of a nuance in Skyrim).

[jonnan.west]

Origineel geplaatst door Quevik:

Origineel geplaatst door jonnan.west:

I'd love a post-civil war quest 'Burning the Blackbriar' that was an Oceans 11 or The Sting pastiche to destroy the clan.

I really want to see her and Sibbi in matching, dank, uncomfortable jail cells. The only half-decent one is Ingun and I'm not sure but that she's a serial killer in waiting.

So what you're asking for is a briar patch?

I hate you so much for me not thinking to make that pun!