Pilgrims Trench.

[Blinkybubs]

I've located Pilgrims Trench, followed the UESP. further located both shrines of Talos nearby. The one shrine is absent my Potion of the Defender as well as my Words and Philosophy (Two-handed skill book...) Can anybody give me some advice?

[Ihateeverybody]

Is this from a Mod or CC? I don't think I have heard of Pilgrims Trench (Dawnguard Related?)

Only thing I can think of is maybe the area west of Winterhold North of ?Alflandt? where they have 3 or more Talos Shrines all within site of each other. Who needs that many shrines?

But to your point. Likely they fell through the world space and ended up....no idea where things go when they pass through the Void.

[HazakTheMad]

It is a ship graveyard, most people don't find it.
The item could have fallen thru the floor.

[Rez Elwin]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Is this from a Mod or CC? I don't think I have heard of Pilgrims Trench (Dawnguard Related?)

Only thing I can think of is maybe the area west of Winterhold North of ?Alflandt? where they have 3 or more Talos Shrines all within site of each other. Who needs that many shrines?

But to your point. Likely they fell through the world space and ended up....no idea where things go when they pass through the Void.

It's a vanilla location, sunken ship. You are correct in the location though, it is west of Winterhold, close to Ysgramor's tomb.

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by HazakTheMad:

It is a ship graveyard, most people don't find it.
The item could have fallen thru the floor.

Ever since I installed Frostfall I don't spend much time in the water (Especially anywhere near Dawnstar or Winterhold. There always is some "Furious Snowstorm" that shows up the moment I get there.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by HazakTheMad:

It is a ship graveyard, most people don't find it.
The item could have fallen thru the floor.

It's not worth finding, especially since you struggle to see far enough underwater...
I found it in my first playthrough of Oldrim, never bothered again, the underwater content of skyrim is utterly underwhelming...

[HazakTheMad]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by HazakTheMad:

It is a ship graveyard, most people don't find it.
The item could have fallen thru the floor.

It's not worth finding, especially since you struggle to see far enough underwater...
I found it in my first playthrough of Oldrim, never bothered again, the underwater content of skyrim is utterly underwhelming...

It generally is, but why would you spend a significant amount of time exploring the ocean
when there is plenty of stuff on land to find.

[Blinkybubs]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Is this from a Mod or CC? I don't think I have heard of Pilgrims Trench (Dawnguard Related?)

Only thing I can think of is maybe the area west of Winterhold North of ?Alflandt? where they have 3 or more Talos Shrines all within site of each other. Who needs that many shrines?

But to your point. Likely they fell through the world space and ended up....no idea where things go when they pass through the Void.

Are there 3? If so it could be at another. I only found the two listed in the uesp (or two of the three.)

[Blinkybubs]

Originally posted by HazakTheMad:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

It's not worth finding, especially since you struggle to see far enough underwater...
I found it in my first playthrough of Oldrim, never bothered again, the underwater content of skyrim is utterly underwhelming...

It generally is, but why would you spend a significant amount of time exploring the ocean
when there is plenty of stuff on land to find.

Well, it is flagged on the UI if you're close enough to it. I wasn't looking for it I was just hanging out exploring. There is no way I would have discovered otherwise. I'm guessing that instead of flagging on a flat plane, the flagging is extended to a depth instead. The location doesn't count as discovered on the world map until you dive down to it.

(It also didn't hurt that I have a helmet of waterbreathing.)

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by HazakTheMad:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

It's not worth finding, especially since you struggle to see far enough underwater...
I found it in my first playthrough of Oldrim, never bothered again, the underwater content of skyrim is utterly underwhelming...

It generally is, but why would you spend a significant amount of time exploring the ocean
when there is plenty of stuff on land to find.

Because the underwater exploration in Oblivion was worthwhile...
As I said I found it on my first playthrough of Oldrim, which meant my Oblivion playstyle was still firmly entrenched, so exploring the water was a must....

Soon abandoned underwater though, they simply didn't put enough to make swimming interesting in Skyrim.

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by Blinkybubs:

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Is this from a Mod or CC? I don't think I have heard of Pilgrims Trench (Dawnguard Related?)

Only thing I can think of is maybe the area west of Winterhold North of ?Alflandt? where they have 3 or more Talos Shrines all within site of each other. Who needs that many shrines?

But to your point. Likely they fell through the world space and ended up....no idea where things go when they pass through the Void.

Are there 3? If so it could be at another. I only found the two listed in the uesp (or two of the three.)

Just in that general area off the top of my head:

1. One near the frozen mamoth near a standing stone (tower/Lock one?)
2. One out on an iceberg west of College.
3. One near Rat Brewary North Eastish of College (Par of Lost Students quest).

[Mr. Monday]

https://srmap.uesp.net/?centeron=Pilgrim%27s+Trench