Thane of Winterhold No Rewards Bug

[MegaLobsterFace]

Literally just posted about something else, but already running into a problem I can't find a replicable anywhere else online.

I was doing the process of becoming thane like normal. Got the helm of winterhold no problem. Went and helped 3 citizens. Went back, the jarl awards me the title, but the physical reward isn't given to me. I still have the status of thane, guards recognize my title, but i don't get the gear that's supposed to come with it. This normally wouldn't bother me, seeing as its just levelled trash loot, but I'm using Legacy of the Dragonborn and not only does that give unique rewards I don't get (thane's ring, staff of winterhold, and witdrinker specifically), but the thane banner in the armory doesn't even spawn in, and I don't even have a guess as to how that works with these circumstances.

I've already done the thane stuff for Falkreath, and that went off without a hitch, and every other post I've researched about this only turns up problems with the initial quest for the helm, so I'm completely out of ideas of where to even look for solutions. Anyone know a solution besides digging up ID numbers and, uh... banner console commands???

Does anyone even know what the banner console command would be???

[SpeedFreak1972]

I guess you have LOTD installed, because those rewards sounds like rewards of LOTD the weapon you should get immediately as for the ring sometimes a courier will deliver it to you

As for the banner in the armory there should be an option for it in the mcm

[Morgan Fun Gamer]

Are you using mods or playing without mods because this could have something to do with this problem.

[Ilja]

Originally posted by Morgan Fun Gamer:

Are you using mods or playing without mods because this could have something to do with this problem.

At least Legacy of the Dragonborn was mentioned in OP. Those items are also mod content.
I would say it is safe to say that mods are involved.

[Morgan Fun Gamer]

Originally posted by Ilja:

Originally posted by Morgan Fun Gamer:

Are you using mods or playing without mods because this could have something to do with this problem.

At least Legacy of the Dragonborn was mentioned in OP. Those items are also mod content.
I would say it is safe to say that mods are involved. :RoflOwlcat:

Ok thank you for teling me

[Ilja]

I am unsure if content is distributed through script or leveled lists. Have you done Bashed Patch (or similar patch) to merge leveled lists? This might be the case where something is simply overriding that specific part of records.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Yea well it's probably LOTD the banner mentioned is probably the banner in the armory when you become a thane and the staff and ring are also of LOTD for some reason the thane items and status in LOTD is not triggered and no it's not the leveled lists

[Ilja]

Okay. I am playing with LoTD, but never checked if that was leveled or not.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Well if it was the leveled list the banner should at least been triggered. I had it once I got all the rewards, but the banner didn't trigger so my take is that the banner is triggered by something else.

OP did you get the notice: Thane of Winterhold display added?

[MegaLobsterFace]

None of the rewards are levelled if you're using LotD. I'm also using the Zim's Immersive Artifacts patch from LotD's official patch hub, so the thane's ring and the staff of winterhold are added by LotD itself while Witdrinker is added by ZIA. In any other hold, all three rewards spawn as normal as soon as the jarl says "Take this from my armory," when the normal leveled item with the special name would normally be rewarded, and that is also when the thane banner updates in the armory. None of these things trigger in just Winterhold specifically.

I haven't done the civil war on either side yet, so Korir is still there. I know he has a lot of bugs associated with him, but i couldn't find any information online in relation to this one in particular.

Since the vanilla reward (leveled loot called the Blade of Winterhold) is replaced by LotD completely, and because guards still recognize me as Thane, I think that all of the vanilla aspects of the quest are triggering as normal, it's just the LotD aspects that are bugged.

[MegaLobsterFace]

I've also verified that this isn't happening because of a memory leak or bc the playthrough has gone on too long. Just did all the proper steps for Dawnstar and received the proper rewards.

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Well if it was the leveled list the banner should at least been triggered. I had it once I got all the rewards, but the banner didn't trigger so my take is that the banner is triggered by something else.

OP did you get the notice: Thane of Winterhold display added?

Something I noticed on completion of Dawnstar's Thane quest, when I did that I got a message saying I'd unlocked thane status. That does not appear in Winterhold. All that happens is that I have the misc quest completion and I can tell guards I'm thane, the game might not actually recognize that I did anything at all.

[MegaLobsterFace]

I still have no idea what caused this or what I did to have it not happen in my new playthrough, BUT I have found a solution for anyone else who might have this bug several years in the future only to stumble through ancient forum posts looking for answers.

LotD v6 has a debug menu in the MCM where you can activate the thane display banner manually, in case that ever bugs out. And the Legacy of the Dragonborn fan-made wiki will offer console IDs for all of the items that are supported by the museum, including Zim's weapons, so you can manually spawn in the rewards that way. Not an ideal solution, but at least not a progression halter.