Where's m'tats gone?

[The Zanzibarbarian]

Right. Just got back into the game yet again, and without changing anything (No mods. Nada. Nothing.) I'm making my female, and none of the tattoos are showing up on her body!?
I wouldn't know where to look. Everything is running AOK.
The main female body mods are;
Fair Skin complexion.
Bijin Skin UNP and CBBE SE.
And of course, CBBE.
So it's nothing out of the ordinary. Got a load of different tattoo mods and everything 7 or 8 months ago for females, was working just fine. I've gone for a Breton but I can't believe that would cause any problems. Never has done with any of the Elvin or other races.
Any suggestions of how to resolve this before I start banging my head on my keyboard?
Oh! And I'm an old git. So no complicated answers please

[Melkolf]

Huh, thought you said you had no mods. Nada. Nothing...

I'm an old git too, nor am I stupid, but your starting position is so confusing and contradictory I have no idea where to begin to help, except maybe you should ensure your starting tattoo colour is black or dark red as sometimes it defaults to the skin colour under some skin colour mods...

[The Zanzibarbarian]

Originally posted by Melkolf:

Huh, thought you said you had no mods. Nada. Nothing...

I'm an old git too, nor am I stupid, but your starting position is so confusing and contradictory I have no idea where to begin to help, except maybe you should ensure your starting tattoo colour is black or dark red as sometimes it defaults to the skin colour under some skin colour mods...

No. I'm saying I've done nothing to make the tattoos stop working. Even though they show up on male characters, they've stopped on female ones.

Let me explain.
I'm in racemenu. I've created my female. Now I just need to add a delicate shade of tattoo to her body.
I've been caught out before by not seeing any tattoos. Then realising that I've not coloured it. So I always make them plain black to show up, and once I have the tattoo I desire, then I change the colour. It all worked perfectly for my Orc yesterday and Nord a couple days ago. But they were both male. But they're just not showing up for the female.

[The Zanzibarbarian]

Well...
This I cannot explain.
Just quickly popped into the game, and I can get the tattoos showing up. With or without clothing as I know sometimes, tattoos vanish when you remove clothing.
So I haven't a clue why they were not showing up earlier.
Oh! Well... C'est la vie...!!??

[Melkolf]

It happens. The joys of Skyrim (ironic)...

[Ihateeverybody]

If I had to make a wild stab in the dark guess, the lighting in Character Creator was hinky OR the Overlay its self wasn't applying.

Were you using an Alternate Start mod (Depending on which one, I would make the case Lighting was Hinky) or were you at Helgen with Vanilla Start (This is where the Overlay not applying would make most sense)?

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by The Zanzibarbarian:

Originally posted by Melkolf:

Huh, thought you said you had no mods. Nada. Nothing...

I'm an old git too, nor am I stupid, but your starting position is so confusing and contradictory I have no idea where to begin to help, except maybe you should ensure your starting tattoo colour is black or dark red as sometimes it defaults to the skin colour under some skin colour mods...

No. I'm saying I've done nothing to make the tattoos stop working. Even though they show up on male characters, they've stopped on female ones.

Let me point out that ANY mod can affect anything if it's in the wrong place in your load order.

Post your load order, and your specs, so people can eliminate a bad load order.

[The Zanzibarbarian]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

If I had to make a wild stab in the dark guess, the lighting in Character Creator was hinky OR the Overlay its self wasn't applying.

Were you using an Alternate Start mod (Depending on which one, I would make the case Lighting was Hinky) or were you at Helgen with Vanilla Start (This is where the Overlay not applying would make most sense)?

I do use the alternative start. But it's the first time it's ever happened in "?" of years. Just weird it mended itself. Though I used the consul command "showracemenu" as I had saved then re-logged back in.
As @Melkof said. "The joys of Skyrim".

[Ihateeverybody]

I know some Obody stuff that won't work until you exit and restart the game. Likely something similar which relies on scripts run on game load vs Game Start.

Sometimes stuff gets weird. Last week on my previous playthrough I noticed two candle flames under my Character after exiting the starter cell, They were annoying me for 30 levels or so just there. Then one day they were just gone. No explanation.

[The Zanzibarbarian]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

I know some Obody stuff that won't work until you exit and restart the game. Likely something similar which relies on scripts run on game load vs Game Start.

Sometimes stuff gets weird. Last week on my previous playthrough I noticed two candle flames under my Character after exiting the starter cell, They were annoying me for 30 levels or so just there. Then one day they were just gone. No explanation.

With a previous character, after restarting the game, I knew that as soon as my character got hit, my game would CTD. So as soon as I restarted the game after shutting down the previous session, I'd punch the first person I saw, get hit, CTD, restart and everything thing would be OK Only ever seemed to happen to that Nord.