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At the end of Shivering Isles he said something about roaming Oblivion, and Legends has a whole thing about Sheogorath suppressing his memories of Jyggalag, but that just seems like they realised they forgot. Presumably he's still on vacation.
I think that's why we haven't seen much of Jyggalag recently; Sheogorath's holding him in check. Part of the reason Jyggalag was able to cause so much damage before was that he had no opposite number; the other Daedric Princes opposed him, but none of them personified that opposition like Sheogorath does. So even though he's now free, Sheogorath keeps him from repeating his earlier actions just by existing. Between the two of them, there's a balance.
He may not have a direct involvement in the main story of TESV, but in the greater setting he certainly seems to.
I mean, this a Daedric Prince that ones the likes of Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon, and Namira were SCARED OF because of how powerful he supposedly was/is. You’d think that if he was free and able to roam Oblivion again, it would start some kind of Daedric war as Jyggalag launched some kind of campaign against the rest of them to bring “order”.
Regardless of what’s happening in Mundus, you’d think an all-out Daedric war would spill out in some fashion in the mortal realm, or at the very least would be mentioned.
@Valden
Good point. As the form of Sheogorath served as Jygg’s prison it could make sense that’s it’s Sheo who is the only one able to keep him in check.
You’d still think though that if that were the case, Sheo wouldn’t be found on vacation in Pelagius’ mind (where it sounds like he’s been for a long time) or he would’ve at least mentioned it.
The daedra princes all have their own personal things going on in Skyrim, which kinda takes priority over whatever may be happening elsewhere as far as our character is concerned, and the whole point of Oblivion was that there could no longer be any spillover.
There’s also this entire DLC that features Hermaeus Mora as a secondary antagonist called Dragonborn.
The opportunities for a Jyggalag-led war against the other Princes to be even just mentioned are there.
As for “spill over”, the events of TESIV shut the Gates of Oblivion “forever” and ended Dagon’s attempt to take over Mundus.
Oblivion Gates were just the means by which Dagon was able to bring himself and his minions from the Deadlands to Mundus.
The end of TESIV is not supposed to be interpreted as meaning that all travel/interaction between Oblivion and Mundus is now impossible.
If that were true - there would be no Daedric quests in TESV, Conjuring Magic and Necromancy wouldn’t work anymore, you wouldn’t be going to the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard, and you wouldn’t be going into Apocrypha in Dragonborn.
- Azura has had her star stolen and corrupted.
- Clavicus has lost/kicked out Barbas, again, and it's really him you work for this time.
- Boethiah's looking for a new champion among her followers when you turn up.
- Hermaeus Mora just wants his book back.
- Hircine is in the middle of a Bloodmoon, again.
- Malacath only cares about Orcs.
- Dagon doesn't have a quest for you, just wants someone worthy to have his razor.
- Mephala has lost most of her power and her blade is trapped.
- Meridia's temple has been defiled.
- Namira technically doesn't have a quest for you, just rewards you for being a cannibal.
- Nocturnal's been stolen from, again.
- Peryite's plan to spread a plague has been halted and he wants revenge.
- Sanguine just wants to party.
- Sheogorath is Sheogorath.
- Vaermina's staff is trapped and going to be destroyed.
Sheogorath's definitely would've been the one to mention it in or do something related instead of poking people with a staff, but considering how we went from Bloodmoon in Morrowind to Bloodmoon in Skyrim, we'd probably have ended up with just 1 knight or pillar and somehow that would have ended the greymarch again.
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Hermaeus Mora who still only cares about his books and gaining the knowledge of the Skaal, and only helps you defeat Miraak in exchange for that and his disloyalty.
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I phrased that poorly. Things can still get through, but not on the large scale. The summons are temporary, don't talk to us, and have no reason to bring it up.
There are no great big permanently open doorways in between (beyond the cc), and most are incapable of the ritual to open/create said doorways or permanently summon a daedra, where one might theoretically mention it at some point if they'd ever been fleshed out as characters.
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We're also assuming that he's still a threat currently. With him and Sheogorath existing at the same time, he no longer has a realm.
They remember that the Hero of Kvatch became Sheogorath, but didn't bother to follow through on the rest....
Which is typical of Bethesda, maybe he will eventually resurface in TES6... maybe he won't, only time and Bethesda will tell....
@Alex
Honestly, I think that’s the actual answer.
They came up with Jyggalag, wrote in this big reveal/twist regarding Sheogorath’s identity and the Hero of Kvatch’s fate, and ultimately set up some seemingly significant consequences…and then said “nah, let’s have TESV just be about dragons and ♥♥♥♥”.
If Jyggalag is waging some kind of war against the other Daedric Princes and invading their planes and trying to destroy them (albeit temporarily as Daedric Princes can just resurrect in the void) - you’d think that would be a pretty big deal.
It wouldn’t have had to have been the main story of TESV, but you’d think if that were going on it would’ve affected the interactions you have with the Daedric Princes - like their quests would’ve involved trying to get the DB to do things to combat Jyggalag’s offensive or empower them to better defend against him.
Hell, I could’ve seen you summoning Malacath during his quest and him being like “why tf are you bothering me with this trivial ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? I’m busy fighting off Jyggalag ffs! Go kill a giant or something and stop being a ♥♥♥♥♥.”