Elder Scrolls 6's development should be given over to Larian studios or Obsidian entertainment

[neuronfly]

After the disaster that was Starfield, many people have lost all interest in Elder Scrolls 6 because we know they will ♥♥♥♥ it up again. The last decent game that bethesda made was fallout 4 and that was released in 2016, almost a decade ago. Since then it was been failure over failure like fallout 76 and starfield. Microsoft should give the development of the game to Larian studios or Obsidian entertainment. What do you guys think?

[alexander_dougherty]

Bethesda doesn't read these forums, and even if they did they would not give their IP over to another developer.

[neuronfly]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Bethesda doesn't read these forums, and even if they did they would not give their IP over to another developer.

Microsoft owns bethesda now and so all bethesda's IPs are now owned by Microsoft. MS can act as the publisher for Elder Scrolls 6 and give development license to Larian studios. Also Obsidian entertainment is also owned by MS.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by neuronfly:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Bethesda doesn't read these forums, and even if they did they would not give their IP over to another developer.

Microsoft owns bethesda now and so all bethesda's IPs are now owned by Microsoft. MS can act as the publisher for Elder Scrolls 6 and give development license to Larian studios. Also Obsidian entertainment is also owned by MS.

Microsoft doesn't interfere with the studios it owns like that, it buys them, gives them some cash, then lets them succeed or fail on their own.... which is what they have always done

So the IP will not be given to Larian.... who have said they aren't doing any fantasy games for a while anyway.

[psychotron666]

Fallout 4 wasn't decent, it was a ♥♥♥♥ fallout game that was more Minecraft meets grindy MMO than it was a fallout game

[fauxpas]

Eh, although I have zero excitement for TES(6) after Starfield, Lauren is the absolute LAST dev I'd want to see make it, because although they are good at what they do, I really don't want thier writers reenacting the Lusty Argonian Maid with a Werewolf protagonist ... that's what mods are for.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Eh, although I have zero excitement for TES(6) after Starfield, Lauren is the absolute LAST dev I'd want to see make it, because although they are good at what they do, I really don't want thier writers reenacting the Lusty Argonian Maid with a Werewolf protagonist ... that's what mods are for.

Ok, that's an image I did not want

Still not as bad as the Alpaca debate in The Outer Worlds though....

[SpeedFreak1972]

Ok Obsidian I can understand, but what makes you think Larian games will make a good TES? I mean Baldur's gate is a great game, but that doesn't automatically mean they can make a great Elder scrolls. That said this is moot, because it won't happen.

[Messsucher]

It would be weird to see Larian make ES. I prefer this FPS style for ES.

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by neuronfly:

Microsoft owns bethesda now and so all bethesda's IPs are now owned by Microsoft. MS can act as the publisher for Elder Scrolls 6 and give development license to Larian studios. Also Obsidian entertainment is also owned by MS.

Microsoft doesn't interfere with the studios it owns like that, it buys them, gives them some cash, then lets them succeed or fail on their own.... which is what they have always done

So the IP will not be given to Larian.... who have said they aren't doing any fantasy games for a while anyway.

In the case of Bethesda, they also pushed for some actual QC which is why Starfield, despite all it's shortcomings, is one of the least buggy games in Bethesda's history.

So MS will step in if a problem is bad enough but it takes something horribly embarrassing like Bethesda's abhorrent levels of QC.

[FauxFurry]

Larian will probably never work with another company's IP ever again after their poor experience with Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by FauxFurry:

Larian will probably never work with another company's IP ever again after their poor experience with Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast.

That's definitely how their press release sounds.

[DeathStroke]

Larian have shown pretty clearly that they cant be trusted / arent ready to work on other peoples IP . BG3 was average at best , all style and no substance and was baldurs gate in name only , with a few locations and hamfisted cameos forced in. it was a pretty much exactly what all remakes ect end up like after the story has changed hands , barely related and a complete tonal shift. and while im sure hasbro/WotC are ♥♥♥♥ beyond belief to work with , i think larian are better off sticking to their own original works like the divinity series. Bethesda have been making elder scrolls since 94' , why would they ever hand it off to anyone else? not to mention that at this point there is over 5000 years worth of in-universe lore to manage , the last thing it needs is to be worked on by a studio thats not intimately familiar with it. starfield was pretty awful , but it was also their first work in a completely new setting and story without all the previous works of former titles to build off, so hopefully ES6 is at least on par with skyrim.

[LostME]

I heard that Bethesda refused Obsidian's offer to make another fallout.

[@%thesock10150alpha49]

I'm not sure Larian would make a good TES. I'm sure they'll put more passion into it, but passion alone doesn't make games and most of their best people have never worked on a project like TES.

Obsidian is just as risky as Bethesda. Their last big title 'Outer Worlds' was well done, but criminally average. And people love FO:NV, but few actually talk about how god awful it was at launch. It took them a long time to patch out most of the load crashes, enemy glitches, and broken questlines. So just because they made an eventually good FO game, doesn't mean that they'll succeed.

Realistically, I think Bethesda is going to be a lot better going forward. You have to remember that the majority of their failures in the last 7ish years have been the influence of Zenimax trying to forcibly beef it's market value. Even Starfield, though released under MS, was developed primarily under this pressure.

It's not a total excuse, and they'll have some hurdles to jump, but I like to think the dark times are behind us.

[Messsucher]

I don't really care. I don't have big expectations, there will come another cool looking action adventure game with RPG elements. Will get it someday, but that's it. In the meanwhile I play with my ever growing endless backlog.