[SOLVED] RaceMenu not loading

[Ananas]

I'm having an issue where RaceMenu isn't loading into Skyrim. All that shows up is the vanilla character creator with some extra ui details, but nothing that resembles RaceMenu. I have the latest version of SKSE, SkyUI and have tried multiple versions of Racemenu. Tried running only Racemenu/SkyUI on an otherwise vanilla game, so I don't think it's a conflict with another mod. Eventually I decided to give up and use Enhanced Character Edit instead but was still having the same issues. I'm honestly at a loss for what to do. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated!

[fauxpas]

Without a proper load order it's hard to say, but I do know that on Vortex I had to enable the "optional" plugin manually.

[Ananas]

I've already checked multiple times that the Racemenu plugin is enabled, so I don't think it's that. Here's a copy of the Vortex-generated load order. (There could honestly be a ton of problems with it and I just don't know, but this is as sorted by LOOT)

*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
*AI2KTintmasks.esp
*ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
*Lux - Resources.esp
*LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
*Lux Via.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
*AKSkyrimUnderground.esm
*Civil War Longer Camp Setup.esl
*arnima.esm
*FlyingCrowsSSE.esp
*RaceCompatibility.esm
*Falskaar.esm
*Gray Fox Cowl.esm
*Vigilant.esm
*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
*WheelsOfLull.esp
*Wyrmstooth.esp
*ApachiiHair.esm
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
*Immersive Wenches.esp
*Gildergreen Regrown.esp
*RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
*YASH2.esp
*DepthsOfSkyrim.esp
*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
*Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
*Sanctuary Reborn.esp
*Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
*SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
*Lux Via - plugin.esp
*Themarshlands.esp
*Civil War Overhaul.esp
*Skyrim Graveyards.esp
*Helgen Reborn.esp
*Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp
*Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
*YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
*Undeath.esp
*goodbrother.esp
*Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
*Immersive Encounters.esp
*Ebonvale.esp
*HearthfireMultiKid.esp
*Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
*TheEvilMansionFE.esp
*WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
*Civil War Commanders.esp
*Black Thorn Keep.esp
*Sjel Blad Castle_SE.esp
*BattleAftermath.esp
*LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
Realm of Lorkhan - Custom Alternate Start - Choose your own adventure.esp
*MINPCS.esp
*MarriageModSE.esp
*Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
*Clockwork.esp
*male npc overahul se.esp
*Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
*WhiterunMarket.esp
*Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
*Lit Road Signs.esp
*Dwarfsphere.esp
*Kojaks Whiterun Market.esp
*SkyrimUnhinged.esp
*Cloaks.esp
*ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
*Inigo.esp
*Sepolcri.esp
*BleakFallsBarrowRevisited.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
*CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
*CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
*IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
*3PCO.esp
*Joy of Perspective.esp
*DBM_GuardsArmorReplacer_Patch.esp
*DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
*AdalMatar.esp
*COR_AllRace.esp
*IMG-Christmas-2016 (1).esp
*DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
*TKAA.esp
*DBM_YASH_Patch.esp
*elvenwood.esp
*DBM_AHO_Patch.esp
*SofiaFollower.esp
*DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp
*Eli_Druid Home.esp
*WindPath.esp
*frozenintime.esp
*Undriel_Ebongrove.esp
*Identity Crisis.esp
*DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp
*Tools of Kagrenac.esp
*DBM_TOK_Patch.esp
*FoMo.esp
*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
*quest_pitfighter.esp
*Darkend.esp
*notice board.esp
*Elvenwood - Helgen Reborn Compatability Patch.esp
*ForgottenCity.esp
*SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
*WindhelmRacism.esp
*azelfollower.esp
*BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
*DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
*Missives.esp
*Lux Via - Divine Elegance patch.esp
*DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp
*DBM_Falskaar_Patch.esp
*DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
*DBM_TheGrayCowlofNocturnal_Patch.esp
*Completionist.esp
*Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp
*DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
*DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp
*DBM_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
*Lucien.esp
*DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp
*GallowsOfSkyrim.esp
*DBM_Missives_Patch.esp
*DweDog.esp
*KozakowyFalkaArmor.esp
*Ravengate.esp
*hangedman's tree.esp
*BVLT - Human.esp
*BlackSacramentArmor.esp
*Bijin Wives.esp
*BloodOperative.esp
*CBBE.esp
*CWOLeveled.esp
*Imperial_Outfits.esp
*Civil War Uniform.esp
*CoT-BugFixesSE.esp
*OPHybrid.esp
*Saturation Increase by Simtar123 - SSE.esp
*ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
*ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp
*DX Dark Knight Armor.esp
*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
*Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
*DeadlyDragons.esp
*ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
*GDZZJJDH.esp
*0_katnerd_StartPlayerFemale_Spells.esp
*DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
*Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
*dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
*dD-Larger Drips.esp
*FNIS.esp
*Undriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.esp
*EvenMoreMakeup.esp
*FNIS_PCEA2.esp
*sarcasticdragon's snarky loading screens.esp
*halfdragonrace.esp
*HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
*KMLMakeupSuite.esp
*KS Hairdo's.esp
*KS Jewelry.esp
*Kynreeve Armor.esp
*LazyTools.esp
*Maevan2EyeBrows.esp
*Masters of Death.esp
*MaximumCarnage.esp
*More_Saddles.esp
*More_Saddles - Frost - BigGameHunter.esp
*More_Saddles - Shadowmere - Bard.esp
*NB-Scars.esp
*MFF_Core.esp
*Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp
*RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
*Realistic Combat AI.esp
*Runandwalkpaces.esp
*Savage Wolves and Feral Foxes.esp
*SilverDragonArmor.esp
*Sakora's Make Over Kit for SKSE64.esp
*DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp
*TheNecroDen.esp
*DBM_DBGG_Patch.esp
*DBM_DepthsofSkyrim_Patch.esp
*RabbitHole.esp
*Hedge Mage Armor.esp
*moonpath.esp
*DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp
*DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp
*Steel Falcon.esp
*Raven Witch Armor.esp
*LustmordVampireArmor.esp
*MeekoReborn.esp
*SOT-Sleeping.esp
*DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
*Sovereign's Slayer Armor SE.esp
*StandingStonesBetterEffects.esp
*TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
*dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
*Serana.esp
*UIExtensions.esp
*Vigilant CBBE Patch.esp
*ViewableFactionRanks.esp
*WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp
*WindhelmSegregation.esp
*XPMSE.esp
*Veydosebrom Regions.esp
*TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
*WetandCold.esp
*Vigilant Voiced.esp
*YASH2_CustomRaces.esp
*Armor of Intrigue.esp
*AsharaImperialOutfit.esp
*ESO Altmer Armor by NewrMind43.esp
*RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
*Containers and Leveled Lists Fixes.esp
*DBM_CLLF_Patch.esp
*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
*Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
*Sacrosanct - Non-Starved Draining and Sneak Draining.esp
*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
*Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo.esp
*Skyland Watercolor - Slow Green-RW2.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp
*FaceSculptorsRacemenu.esp
*GothMakeup.esp
*HavoksLipPatterns.esp
More Racism - CRF LotD YASH Economy Overhaul Patch.esp
*RaceMenu.esp
*RaceMenuPlugin.esp
*RaceMenuHH.esp
*SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp

[Ananas]

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[Doom Sayer]

How much have you tested if any game mods are loading? Like specifically plugins?

Skyrim update introduced bug into Engine fixes so a default setting disables all plugins on boot.

"To avoid this issue, you simply need to open the file "Skyrim Special Edition/Data/SKSE/Plugins/EngineFixes.toml" in a text editor. Find the [Patches] section, then locate the line EnableAchievementsWithMods and change the value to false."

If using MO2 and I assume also with vortex you would find the config file in the mods install folder. In MO2 its right click, open in explorer and just find file, edit to false.

Also the load order is of little help given that skips out entirely on SKSE plugins which are instrumental and basically almost all skyrim mod functionality.

Hopefully its just that issue because its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid but its a easy fix. Mods could really use baby sitter style people to just dispense skse plugin updates and config updates.

[Ananas]

All of my other mods seem to be loading perfectly fine. Started a new game, everything else works fine except Racemenu and all the tintmasks and overlays associated with it. I'm not able to get a screengrab right now but I will when I get home.

The best I can explain what's happening is the vanilla creator with an extra sidebar to the left and different keybinds on the bottom with CME in front of all of them.
When I was digging around online I saw one other post with the exact same issue but the fix that they used didn't work for me, so I'm at a loss.

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by Ananas:

All of my other mods seem to be loading perfectly fine. Started a new game, everything else works fine except Racemenu and all the tintmasks and overlays associated with it. I'm not able to get a screengrab right now but I will when I get home.

The best I can explain what's happening is the vanilla creator with an extra sidebar to the left and different keybinds on the bottom with CME in front of all of them.
When I was digging around online I saw one other post with the exact same issue but the fix that they used didn't work for me, so I'm at a loss.

Could it be a mod overwriting race menu? In vortex or MO2 put it at the very bottom so it loads last and see if that changes anything? Also i mean the actual install not the plugin though plugin might also be smart just for testing.

If your using MO2 you can just manage profile, create copy of current one then disable all mods on the copied profile to test if it works with no other mods, is another option.

Did you double check its the SE version of race menu?

[Ananas]

Originally posted by Doom Sayer:

Originally posted by Ananas:

All of my other mods seem to be loading perfectly fine. Started a new game, everything else works fine except Racemenu and all the tintmasks and overlays associated with it. I'm not able to get a screengrab right now but I will when I get home.

The best I can explain what's happening is the vanilla creator with an extra sidebar to the left and different keybinds on the bottom with CME in front of all of them.
When I was digging around online I saw one other post with the exact same issue but the fix that they used didn't work for me, so I'm at a loss.

Could it be a mod overwriting race menu? In vortex or MO2 put it at the very bottom so it loads last and see if that changes anything? Also i mean the actual install not the plugin though plugin might also be smart just for testing.

If your using MO2 you can just manage profile, create copy of current one then disable all mods on the copied profile to test if it works with no other mods, is another option.

Did you double check its the SE version of race menu?

I’ll try that once I get home and can tinker around. I have the AE version of Racemenu, that’s the one that automatically downloads from Vortex. I tried with the SE version too and had the same issue, but I’ll try again and report back.

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by Ananas:

Originally posted by Doom Sayer:

Could it be a mod overwriting race menu? In vortex or MO2 put it at the very bottom so it loads last and see if that changes anything? Also i mean the actual install not the plugin though plugin might also be smart just for testing.

If your using MO2 you can just manage profile, create copy of current one then disable all mods on the copied profile to test if it works with no other mods, is another option.

Did you double check its the SE version of race menu?

I’ll try that once I get home and can tinker around. I have the AE version of Racemenu, that’s the one that automatically downloads from Vortex. I tried with the SE version too and had the same issue, but I’ll try again and report back.

I actually mean AE/SE rather than oldrim one. Im not personally uptodate on which mods have AE VS SE versions and pretty much forget 1 minute after downloading personally.

Disabling all mods except race menu and alternate start mod is a really easy fast way to troubleshoot it, although i guess showracemenu command would also work.

[Ananas]

Originally posted by Ananas:

Originally posted by Doom Sayer:

Could it be a mod overwriting race menu? In vortex or MO2 put it at the very bottom so it loads last and see if that changes anything? Also i mean the actual install not the plugin though plugin might also be smart just for testing.

If your using MO2 you can just manage profile, create copy of current one then disable all mods on the copied profile to test if it works with no other mods, is another option.

Did you double check its the SE version of race menu?

I’ll try that once I get home and can tinker around. I have the AE version of Racemenu, that’s the one that automatically downloads from Vortex. I tried with the SE version too and had the same issue, but I’ll try again and report back.

I'm definitely using AE/SE Racemenu- unfortunately, I'm still having the same problem. Placed Racemenu at the bottom of my load order and still the same thing. I was able to grab a picture this time, though. Here's what a new game with alternate start looks like.

https://ibb.co/dtnjHmC

[Doom Sayer]

Idk maybe someone who knows vortex can help. I have used MO2 forever, race menu, SE and never seen a issue like that.

[Doom Sayer]

How did you install SKSE? NVM probably not that i really dont know.

[Ananas]

Installed SKSE through the actual files and transferring over the .dll and .pex files and everything. I have honestly no idea why it isn’t working. Do you think it would be beneficial to switch completely over to MO2?

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by Ananas:

Installed SKSE through the actual files and transferring over the .dll and .pex files and everything. I have honestly no idea why it isn’t working. Do you think it would be beneficial to switch completely over to MO2?

Possibly it could fix it but there is no reason it should fix it. You could always just install MO2 separately and see if it works there idk. What i find odd is even if I TRY to create your problem i dont have it. Like its only requirement should be SKSE and if i disable it the result looks nothing like yours.

[Ananas]

Originally posted by Doom Sayer:

Originally posted by Ananas:

Installed SKSE through the actual files and transferring over the .dll and .pex files and everything. I have honestly no idea why it isn’t working. Do you think it would be beneficial to switch completely over to MO2?

Possibly but there is no reason it should. You could always just install MO2 separately and see if it works there idk. What i find odd is even if I TRY to create your problem i dont have it.

That’s so frustrating haha. I’ll try that and report back.