Help with Modded Landscape issue

[Jorge]

So I'm a long term chronic mod-aholic abuser and I think I've taken the cake. I have currently 440 mods loaded, and I'm getting this weird issue I can't find anywhere. I have 2 mains issues that are not related to each other, but make the process of figuring them out stupid long. The first is, my saves become instantly corrupted when im in game and playing. however they load perfectly fine if I close the game and on a fresh start up try to load them. This makes the 2nd which is after I load into a save. I walk 2 mins in any directions and randomly landscapes do not load in. Things fall to the bottom of the map, however when I save at those spots issue 1 close my game relaunch everything is loaded in. I know for a fact that I lazily installed all these mods, but I refuse to go one by one. I don't know how to display my mods list any other way so here is the copy paste. To the brave souls that attempt to help, I love you and thank you for your time and help.
ALLLSO if someone wants to correct my horrendous load order please feel free to drop the corrected order.





DLC: HearthFires
DLC: Dragonborn
DLC: Dawnguard
Creation Club: ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode
Creation Club: ccBGSSSE037-Curios
Creation Club: ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS
Creation Club: ccBGSSSE001-Fish
Creation Club: _ResourcePack
SkyUI
Address Library for SKSE Plugins
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - USSEP
Better Container Controls for SkyUI
Smooth Interface (60fps)
RaceMenu
Project New Reign - Nemesis Unlimited Behavior Engine
MCM Helper
Enhanced Blood Textures
FileAccess Interface for Skyrim SE Scripts - FISSES
Lux
Lux Via
Lux Orbis
Lux (patch hub)
NAT.ENB III - Natural and Atmospheric Tamriel ENB 3.1.1C
Enhanced Volumetric Lighting and Shadows (EVLaS)
ENB Helper SE
ENB Helper Plus
ENB Light
Skoglendi - A Grass Mod
Cutting Room Floor - SSE
Static Mesh Improvement Mod
Skyland - A Landscape Texture Overhaul
SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)
powerofthree's Tweaks
PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
powerofthree's Papyrus Extender
PAPER
Actor Limit Fix
Bears of the North
Small Nordic Tent Replacer
DynDOLOD Resources SE
Northern Roads
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition
True Directional Movement - Modernized Third Person Gameplay
Combat Pathing Revolution
SCAR - Skyrim Combos AI Revolution
Payload Interpreter
Dynamic Animation Replacer
Animation Motion Revolution
Flying Crows SSE
Seagulls of Skyrim
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim
Dear Diary
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim
Vaultman30's Armor Extended SE
Vaultman30's Armor Extended SE Beyond Reach
Vaultman30's Armor Extended SE Citizens Patch
Vaultman30's Armor Extended SE INPC Patch
Vaultman30's Armor Extended SE IMP patch
DK's Realistic Nord Ships SSE
Interesting NPCs SE (3DNPC)
Keyword Item Distributor
Keyword Compatibility Framework
TrueHUD - HUD Additions
JContainers SE
Better MessageBox Controls
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul
QuickLoot EE
Water for ENB
Realistic Water Two SE
Wigfrids Tree Replacer
Realistic Ragdolls and Force
Immersive Patrols SE AE
Immersive Loading Icon
Immersive Wenches
The Great City Of Dawnstar SSE Edition
The Great City Of Falkreath SSE Edition
The Great City of Rorikstead SSE Edition
The Great Town of Ivarstead SSE
The Great Village of Mixwater Mill SSE
The Great Town of Shor's Stone SSE
The Great Village of Old Hroldan SSE
The Great Town of Karthwasten SSE
Nordic Carving - Great Portal of Dragonsreach SE
Cities of the North - Winterhold
Deadly Spell Impacts
Bandit Lines Expansion
Unread Books Glow SSE
JK's The Bannered Mare
Bandolier - Bags and Pouches Classic
Bandolier - Bags and Pouches for NPC
Winter Is Coming SSE - Cloaks
Weapon Replacer V30
Weapon Replacer Midwood Patch
Weapon Replacer INPC patch
Weapon Replacer Beyond Reach
Cloaks and Capes
Dawnguard Arsenal SSE
Simple Wearable Lanterns
Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes
Cloaks of Skyrim SSE
Lockpicking for Barbarians
Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice
Centered Blue Palace Throne
Rorikstead Basalt Cliffs
ClefJ's Morthal SE
Rodryk's Dragon Bridge
ClefJ's Half Moon Mill - SE
Dragonfall Castle SE
Riverwood Keep SE
Skyrim Battle Aftermath SE
Footprints
Missives
Missives - Quest Edits for Unique Missive Board Mods
Valhalla Combat
RUSTIC WINDOWS - Special Edition
Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers
Rich Skyrim Merchants
Imperious - Races of Skyrim
Dear Diary DM and Paper (Squish) Fixes
Better Dynamic Snow SE
Lanterns of Skyrim SE
Better Third Person Selection - BTPS
Immersive Horses
Mortal Enemies SE
VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE
Left Hand Rings Modified SE
Helgen Reborn
Winterhold Restored
Winter Is Coming - Cloaks
Ogres SE
Falmer.by.Kajuan
moreHUD Inventory Edition
Skyrim 3D Misc
Complete Archery Overhaul RELOADED - Arrows and Bolts Expanded
Carriage Drivers - New Clothing SE by Xtudo
The Men of Winter SSE
JS Lockpicking UI SE
ABT AE - Arrows and Bolts Tweaks Anniversary Edition
Complete Archery Overhaul RELOADED
Somewhat Historically Accurate Weapons and Viking Gear
Vikings Weaponry - Johnskyrim
Viking Weapon Pack
Immersive World Encounters SE
MorrowLoot Ultimate
Draugr.by.Kajuan
Nordic Carving - Wallbaskets SE
RedBag's Dragonsreach - SE
Ruins Clutter Improved SE
Diverse Dragons Collection SE (DDCse)
Nordic Cooking
Rudy HQ - Nordic Ruins SE
Campfire - Complete Camping System (Supports Skyrim VR)
Cuyi's Campfire Backpacks
Detection Meter
Detection Meter - AE Support
Run For Your Lives
Rudy HQ - Miscellaneous SE
Faction - Pit Fighter
Opulent Thieves Guild
Penitus Oculatus
Open Civil War SSE
Improved College Entry - Questline Tweaks
Dark Brotherhood Reborn - Dawnstar Sanctuary SEE
dMenu
Sovngarde - A Nordic Font
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim
Security Overhaul SKSE - Lock Variations
XNFRain's Civil War Map Flag Replacer SE
Magical College of Winterhold
Improved Companions - Questline Tweaks
All Thieves Guild Jobs Concurrently
This Is Jorrvaskr - Home Of The Companions
Companions Dialogue Bundle
Skyrim Sewers 4
Dungeons - Revisited
Forgotten Dungeons (SSE)
Embershard Mine - Revisited
Steepfall Burrow - Revisited
The Falkreath Hauntings
Wizard Hats
(SGC) SkySA - Combat Behavior Compulsion
Seaforth Hall
Kanjs Simple Weapons - Steel Dagger and Steel Sword - Standalone - Replace - 4k- 2k -
Steel Swords Redone
Zikoru Swords Collection
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO SE
Sons of Skyrim
Apachii Sky Hair SSE
Citizens of Tamriel SE
Ustengrav - Revisited
Bleak Falls Barrow - Revisited
Mage Backpack SSE
WeightLess
Credo- Medieval Skyrim Overhaul SE
Cathedral - 3D Mountain Flowers
Vivid Weathers - Definitive Edition
Dlizzio's Mesh Fixes
No Grass In Objects
Realistic Skin Shaders - Falmer and Hagravens
Realistic Skin And Hair Shaders - Giants
No Spinning Death Animation SE
Headhunter - Bounties Redone
JK's High Hrothgar
Splashes of Skyrim
JK's Angeline's Aromatics
JK's Belethor's General Goods
JK's Sleeping Giant Inn
JK's The Temple of Mara
Riften Docks Overhaul
The Paarthurnax Dilemma
JK's Radiant Raiment
JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company
Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE
JS Shrines of the Divines SE
ETHEREAL CLOUDS - Special Edition
SABRECAT.by.Kajuan
Dragon.Priest.by.Kajuan
Fluffy Snow
Immersive Dawnguard Dayspring Pass SE (IDDP)
Dawnguard Sentries Plus SE
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt - SSE
Vjarkell Castle SE
High Poly Soul Husks
Foglings- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''witcher vampire'')
Fangs and Eyes - Serana
Vampires Fight With Claws
ORI - Harkon's Sword - Blood Matron
Staff of Bloodstained Chalice
Superb Serana Special Edition
Ancient Blood Magic
Mourning Souls- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''dark souls'')
Custom Ruins in Soul Cairn
Snow Whales- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version)
Iconic's Remastered Paragon Gems
Forgotten Vale HD by CleverCharff 4K 2K
CleverCharff's Soul Cairn 4K 2K
Forgotten Vale Ice by CleverCharff
G.R.I.M
Storm Golem- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''atronach'')
Pandorable's NPCs - Dawnguard
Vampire Beasts- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''the witcher'')
Beyond Reach
Skeleton Replacer HD
Majestic Mountains Main
Immersive Fort Dawnguard
CC's Fort Dawnguard Reborn
Frankly HD Dawnguard Armor and Weapons
Gravelords- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''dark souls'')
Auriel's Bow of Light
Training Dummies Provide XP
Frozen Electrocuted Combustion
HD Remastered Landscapes
Blended Roads
HD Road Signs - 2K and 4K
SkySight Skins - Ultra HD Male Textures and Real Feet Meshes (4K2K HIGH)
EVG CLAMBER - Slope Animations
Paired Animation Improvements
Nordic Ruins Tower Rework
Animation Queue Fix
Spell Perk Item Distributor
Hunters Loot - and skin animals
Khajiit Has Tents
Smoking Torches and Candles SSE
Universal (SKSE) Rim Lighting Fix
TRUE FACES - A Character Enhancement Project
Total Character Makeover
ENB Lights For Effect Shaders
Nyghtfall - Dark Fantasy Music
4thUnknown - Ancient Shrouded Armor Replacer
Gemstones Replacers HD SE
Arming Swords Skyrim HD 1_15a
ArteFakes - Unique Artifacts Replacer
Ordinem - Swords of Jyggalag
Lupus - Swords of Hircine
Skyland Whiterun
Environs - Whiterun Watchtower Doesn't Stay Broken
Expressive Facial Animation -Male Edition-
Elven Blades - Elven Sword and Greatsword Model Replacers
Vanilla Table Replacers
Blubbos Tree Replacer for Reach
Steel Weapons Replacer
Fia's Eyes - a replacer and addon
Lucien - Immersive Fully Voiced Male Follower
Lucien Replacer 2
Fluffy Apex Werewolf
Stendarr Statue Replacer for Vigilant
Base Object Swapper
FormList Manipulator - FLM
MergeMapper
Akaviri Katana - Blades Sword Replacer
The Old Ways - Nordic Religion
No snow under the roof
Skyland - Imperial Forts and Dungeons
Skyland - High Hrothgar
Thugs Not Assassins
Northern Roads Patch Collection
JK's Whiterun Outskirts
Nordic Ruins of Skyrim SSE
Infinite Dragon Variants
Ash Golem- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''atronach'')
Flesh Colossus SE
Bogmort - Mud Monsters of Morthal Swamp
Morrowind Creatures SE
Water Hags- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''the witcher'')
Old Gods of the Hunt- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''the witcher'')
Daedroths SE
Crystal Golems - Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''dark souls'')
Ogrim- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''daedra'')
Grummites- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''shivering isles'')
Ruinachs- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''eso daedra'')
Goblins and Durzogs SE
Undead Snow Elves- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''falmer'')
Wolves of Cyrodiil - Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version)
High Minotaurs - Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''eso'')
Midwood Isle Patches
Midwood Isle
The Second Great War
Particle Lights For ENB SE - Paragon Gems
The Second Great War UUSEP
Watchtowers Of Skyrim
Minotaurs SE
Simple Dual Sheath
Immersive Equipment Displays
Weapon Styles - DrawSheathe Animations for IED
Missives - Worldspace Additions - Additional Maps
Immersive Equipment Displays - CBPC Horse Gear
Missives - Midwood Isle
Missives - beyond reach
Stagger Effect Fix
Frozen Electrocuted Combustion Patch
Ordinator Reworked - Combat Mod Compatibility
Better Combat Escape - SSE
I'm Walkin' Here
Scrambled Bugs
Super Fast Get Up Animation
ordinater patch
Better Jumping SE
Dragonbreaker UI
Dragonbreaker UI Fix
Atlas Map Markers SE - Updated with MCM
Skoglendi Grass Placement Tweaks
SkyHUD
SkyHUD patcj
DynDOLOD DLL NG
Blended Roads Redone SE - 8K
Lux Orbis patch
Embers XD
Glorious Doors of Skyrim (GDOS)
Beyond Reach Paper Map for FWMF
No More Glowing Edges Mod
Skyrim Flora Overhaul SE
Precision
TK Dodge SE
ADXP l MCO Nordic Animation Complete Pack
Behavior Data Injector
SCAR AE Support
FYX - 3D Stockades - Walls and Gate
Northern Concept - Northern Roads
Northern Roads - Landscape Fix and Improvement
Northern Roads - Floating Objects Fix
Northern Roads Patch Collection Addons
Imperial Stone The Forts of Skyrim (Updated)
Natural Forts of Skyrim -SE-AE
Ryn's Dragon Mounds Collection
Hold Border Banners
Skyrim 3D Rocks
Cathedral - 3D Rocky Shores
High Poly Project Fixes
High Poly Project
Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul
Assorted mesh fixes
Unofficial Material Fix
Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion
Brawl Lines Expansion and Fixes
Dremora Lines Expansion
Vampire Lines Expansion
Orc Strongholds - Dushnikh Yal
Orc Strongholds - Narzulbur
Orc Strongholds - Dushnikh Yal Orbis
Orc Strongholds - Narzulbur SPice of life
Northern Roads - Crates - No Rim Lighting
Northern Roads Floating Flora Fixes
Flickering Meshes Fix
Civil War Lines Expansion
Crash Logger SSE AE VR - PDB support
Crash Logger
Sprint Sneak Movement Speed Fix
Wade In Water Redone
Loki's Wade In Water
Bug Fixes SSE
Better Combat Escape - NG
Keyword Patch Collection
Rock Traps Trigger Fixes
Dialogue Expansion - Imperial Soldiers
Additional Dremora faces
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim
Additional Dremora faces Ap patch
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim Ord patch
4K Tusks
Spice Of Life - Orc Longhouses
Unreal 4K-8K Mammoth Skeleton ReTexture
Orc Strongholds - Largashbur
Orc Strongholds - Largashbur Orbis
Orc Strongholds - Largashbur main
Orc Strongholds - Largashbur via
Orc Strongholds - Mor Khazgur Orbis
Orc Strongholds - Mor Khazgur main
More Bandit Camps SSE
More Bandit Camps - No Settings Book Recipe
Settlements Expanded
Immersive Fallen Trees SSE
Immersive Fallen Trees Patch
NPCs Take Cover - Smarter Anti-Cheese AI
Medieval Candlehorns and Sconces
Immersive Fallen Trees - Markarth Cliff Fix
MTD - More Thalmor Dossiers
NPCs Ain't Hachikos
DIVERSE SKYRIM SSE
Diverse Skyrim - Battle of Whiterun Fix
Bards - Go the F to Sleep
Courier - True Medieval Outfit
Skyrim Reputation
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Skyrim Reputation - Fixed and Patched
Allow Dialogue Progress Bugfix
Ordinator J'zargo Expert Destruction Dialogue Fix
Beyond Reach - Dialogue Conditions Fix
Thieves Guild Dialogue Fix - USSEP Compatible
Better Dialogue Controls
GORECAP
Enhanced Blood Textures SE - Settings Loader
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Dynamic Impact - Slash Effects X
Simple Wearable Lanterns Fixes
Optimised Scripts for Ordinator
Experience
Experience - MCM
Experience Quests Tweak
Simple Wearable Lanterns - Toggle Hotkey
ordinater patch 2
Horses Simply Turn Better
Regional Save Names
NL_MCM - A Modular MCM Framework
Skyrim SafeSave System Overhaul 2 - Auto Save manager with optional Safety Check Rotating system Hardcore mode
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Additional Starts for Live Another Life
Game of Thrones Armor SE - Port (Englisch AND German available) (PC and XB1)
Rhaegal Paarthurnax - Monstrrous GoT Dragons
Drogon Alduin - Xila's Monstrrous GoT Dragons
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Belt-Fastened Quivers - Crossbow Quivers Fixes curio
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ElSopa - Quivers Redone SE fix
Fists of Fury - Skyrim
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Fists of Fury - Skyrim AE
Fists of Fury - Skyrim Exa
Flat World Map Framework paper map
Flat World Map Framework
Skyrim Paper Map by FreelanceCartography (2nd Edition) for FWMF

[Nabinkemper]

First of all, let me help you with where your load order is. If you are using LOOT, after opening the program and sorting the load order, look in the upper menu called 'Game' and find 'Copy Load Order.' Then simply paste it in the comments.

Also, regardless of whether you use MO2 or Vortex, it is the same two text files at the same location.

C:\Users\[PC Name]\AppData\Local\Skyrim Special Edition
1. loadorder.txt (lists all mods in order, even the inactive ones).
2. plugins.txt (lists only the active plugins).

As for the issues you are experiencing, lets take a look at them one at a time.
Save Corruption Bug
1. Check Your Load Order:
Ensure that your load order is well-organized. Sometimes, a messy load order can lead to issues. If you’re using Vortex, it should sort plugins with LOOT automatically.

If you suspect any conflicting mods, consider adjusting their order or disabling them temporarily to see if the issue persists.

2. Update “SSE Engine Fixes”:
Make sure you have the latest version of “SSE Engine Fixes” installed. This mod aims to address various engine-related issues, including save corruption.
If you already have it installed, try reinstalling it or checking for any updates.

Modify “SaveGameMaxSize” Setting:
Navigate to your SKSE folder and locate the “EngineFixes.toml” file.
Change the setting for “SaveGameMaxSize” to “true.” This adjustment might help prevent save corruption2.

3. Avoid Deleting All Saves for a Character:
Sometimes, deleting all saves for one character through the in-game load menu can cause issues. If you encounter the error message, close and restart the game. To prevent this in the future, delete saves from the main menu instead.

Area Load Issues
There are a few items that jump out at me. One of these is that you are using quite a few Mihail's 'Monsters and Animals' mods. While they are very good mods, the author tend's to over do the spawn locations making it difficult to load all assets in an area and can lead to crashes.

There are a couple of mods that you are using that conflict with each other. These are:
1. 'NAT.ENB III' - Weather and 'Vivid Weathers.'

You are using a mod that has a better replacement:
1. 'Dynamic Animation Replacer' replace with 'Open Animation Replacer.' OAR is better supported and is backwards compatible with mods that require DAR, but DAR cannot run OAR mods.

You have quite a few mods that alter cities, towns, settlements, and strongholds as well as adding some new locations. Depending on your PC specs, this can be taxing on loading into zones. You may want to review these to see if they are needed.

Load issues with different zones may be an issue with DynDOLOD. Someone with more experience will have to comment on this.

That's all I have to start with. Good luck!

[Jorge]

Thank you so much for your advice, I'm testing it rn but after reading it makes much more sense. I don't crash, I haven't ever even gotten so much as frame loss so that's never been an issue thankfully. I haven't been using loot, didn't even know what it was but Im running into an issue with Loot where I can open and launch it just fine with Mo2, it reads and sorts all my plugins, but when I launch the game through Mo2 now its saying 90% of my mod list is inactive and only like 3 mods load in correctly. When I run Loot through its own separate .exe no plugins are displayed or read.

[Shadow Wizard Fluffy Gang]

Originally posted by Jorge:

an issue with Loot where I can open and launch it just fine with Mo2, it reads and sorts all my plugins, but when I launch the game through Mo2 now its saying 90% of my mod list is inactive and only like 3 mods load in correctly. When I run Loot through its own separate .exe no plugins are displayed or read.

Are you also running LOOT through MO2?
Also, are your mods installed manually (in the skyrim folder) or are they installed through MO2?

[Jorge]

So I've been hard at work, and for some reason Skyrim Engine Fix's Part two's DLL's just unchecked all my plugins leading the glitch removed the d2l's and now my files load in correctly. All my mods are through Mo2 installed and downloaded. The plugin's are sorted, but both original issues persist and are unchanged. Every 30 or so seconds of sprinting and the the landscape disappears but when I reload the save at those missing borders it's fine rinse and repeat. I also do not have an “EngineFixes.toml” file for some reason.

[Nabinkemper]

EDIT: Be sure you are installing the correct version of SSE Engine Fixes as well as BOTH parts. The first is via MO2 or Vortex, and the second is a manual download and extract into the game folder.

To fix the plugin disable issue, check to make sure you have made the necessary edits to the SSE Engine Fixes TOML.

See the following for instructions -
https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/13458736-a-fix-for-all-plugins-disabling-after-161130/

Additionally, it may be helpful to review the following guide regarding potential customization with mod installation due to the latest game version -
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3111663148

[Jorge]

Thank each of you for your help. In the end it was just SSE not working for BOTH issues. I solved it by downloading two additional mods one was SSE AE edition, and SSE Save Fix and now my game is all better. Yall are goats keep being goats!