crash in falkreath hold

[ReformedVillain]

I keep having game crashes in the area of Falkreath hold surrounding the player's home roughly between the bandit ambush bridge and pinewatch. My game is heavily modded but the previous posts I've seen didn't solve the issue and I've already ran fully modded games without such an issue. I'll keep looking for fixes on my own and will update if I manage to solve it

[Sairek Ceareste]

Some mod is probably causing some script to bug out or something like that when loading the chunk. Could be a quest, an NPC, or something else. This can sometimes just be a vanilla problem, too (though, usually more common around Whiterun tundra).

You can try making a save, waiting in a town or interior cell for 30 days straight, then try traveling there again. A 30 day wait refreshes the world map and all of its associated cells, so whatever is causing the crash may no longer be there. This is the usual vanilla solution to solve such crashes.


In my current playthrough, I don't crash, but the game recently has starting freezing and the game becomes unresponsive when the cell next to Nilheim tower (where a bandit tries to lure you to escort him back to his camp is, only for it to be a bandit ambush) is loaded -- but it only freezes when I approach from the north to the south via the road. It doesn't freeze and the game runs fine if I come from any other direction or if I directly fast travel there. It's extremely weird.

[ReformedVillain]

I'll try that, will update with the results

[ReformedVillain]

Nope but I noticed there's a location point that's doubled, it shows a cabin icon and two of them are layered on top of one another so I'm guessing two mods are trying to generate a location on top of one another. Does anyone has an idea on how to single out the mods doing that and fix it ?

[Sairek Ceareste]

Originally posted by ReformedVillain:

Nope but I noticed there's a location point that's doubled, it shows a cabin icon and two of them are layered on top of one another so I'm guessing two mods are trying to generate a location on top of one another. Does anyone has an idea on how to single out the mods doing that and fix it ?

Conflicts like that can definitely cause a crash issue when a broken cell is loaded. Though, if it's two mods conflicting, unless you're not using a mod loader, they should be warning you that there is indeed a conflict.

If you're not using one, I very strongly recommend getting one. Bethesda's in-house one in-game is extremely bad and mod loaders are much better to use. "Vortex" is more simple for simple modding in a "plug-in-play" style and allows you to do things like creating profiles and stuff.
"Mod Organizer 2" is slightly more complicated but allows for more options with customizing one's mod load order which is useful if you're using lots of mods or mods which may conflict with one another.




The most common way to troubleshoot problematic mods is to disable half of your mods, and enable the other half to see if the problem persists or not. You should be starting a new game when you are doing this each troubleshooting attempt.

For example, if I have 100 mods, make 50 mods be group a and 50 mods be group b.

Disable group b's mods, and run group a's mods. If the problem doesn't happen in group a's mods, then disable group a's mods, and enable group b's mods.

If the problem persists in group b's mods, then you split group b in half, so you have 25 mods in group c, and 25 mods in group d.

Then repeat again. Cutting the list of potential mods in half each time, until you can single out the problematic mod(s).



In the case of a broken cell, you should also probably load into the cell directly (open up the console and type in "coc falkreath" and it should drop you nearby. "coc" means "center on cell", teleporting you to the center of that cell). It will save you a lot of walking.

[ReformedVillain]

I do use a mod loader (Vortex) and I genuinely fail to see how exactly this bug is occuring, maybe I'll have more luck searching for the conflict into SkyrimEdit5

[ReformedVillain]

alright, I have the name of the locations that are loading on top of another, that will ease the process

[ReformedVillain]

it appears helgen reborn is causing one of the area crashes I've been having (when approaching the brottleshin cave). I believe I've found a patch for the doubled location (Greenwood Shack/Destroyed Shack) we'll see if it works

[ReformedVillain]

Alright, after long hours of SE5Edit It seems I've solved the problem. If anyone else runs into this problem I could show them how to solve it :p