4060 RTX for modding

[SgtPow3rs]

Currently my pc built is running by a 1080 GTX. I can buy fairly cheap a 4060 RTX, so I'm getting that one soon. How does that card perform with modded Skyrim, and is 1440p 60fps even a option with a performance based modlist?

[Neo]

I'd say it will perform very well. You can also downscale your resolution using geforce experience. (DSR)Makes it look very nice.

[SgtPow3rs]

Originally posted by Neo:

I'd say it will perform very well. You can also downscale your resolution using geforce experience. (DSR)Makes it look very nice.

Thanks for your reply. How does DSR actually work? I have never used it myself.

I can set my game (Skyrim) to 1080p but scale it up to 1440p? So it looks like 1440p?

[Neo]

Originally posted by SgtPow3rs:

Originally posted by Neo:

I'd say it will perform very well. You can also downscale your resolution using geforce experience. (DSR)Makes it look very nice.

Thanks for your reply. How does DSR actually work? I have never used it myself.

I can set my game (Skyrim) to 1080p but scale it up to 1440p? So it looks like 1440p?

It makes the resolution go to 4k then fits it all into your desktop resolution, so for me 1080p. You open geforce experience and click the optimize button.

It makes the game look amazing and weirdly runs better too compared to 1920x1080.

[sdack]

Get an RTX 4060 Ti. The Ti's perform much better, because of their greater memory bandwidth, and you need this for 1440p and higher.

[sdack]

Originally posted by SgtPow3rs:

Originally posted by Neo:

I'd say it will perform very well. You can also downscale your resolution using geforce experience. (DSR)Makes it look very nice.

Thanks for your reply. How does DSR actually work? I have never used it myself.

I can set my game (Skyrim) to 1080p but scale it up to 1440p? So it looks like 1440p?

I think he meant DLSS. DSR is the opposite. DSR renders the image on a higher resolution and then scales it down to the monitor's resolution. DLSS renders the image on a lower resolution and uses AI-upscaling to scale it up to your monitor's resolution. DSR uses more GPU power than is necessary, but can make older games look better. DLSS needs less GPU power and can help increase low frame rates.

[Neo]

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by SgtPow3rs:

Thanks for your reply. How does DSR actually work? I have never used it myself.

I can set my game (Skyrim) to 1080p but scale it up to 1440p? So it looks like 1440p?

I think he meant DLSS. DSR is the opposite. DSR renders the image on a higher resolution and then scales it down to the monitor's resolution. DLSS renders the image on a lower resolution and uses AI-upscaling to scale it up to your monitor's resolution. DSR uses more GPU power than is necessary, but can make older games look better. DLSS needs less GPU power and can help increase low frame rates.

No I meant DSR is what I said. I know what DLSS is. I literally explained what I meant and gave a loose explanation of what it does and how to use DSR. We are talking about Dynamic Super Resolution feature in geforce experience and not deep learning super sampling.

[StreamWhenGuy]

There's no native upscaling support such as DLSS for Skyrim.
This mod exists though: Skyrim Upscaler - DLSS FSR2 XeSS [www.nexusmods.com]
There's no way a game runs better while being rendered at x2 x4 x8 whatever times the native or any other resolution since it doesn't make sense and obviously requires more processing power to do so. DSR/VSR is usually used when a game lacks anti-aliasing.

[Neo]

Originally posted by StreamWhenGuy:

There's no native upscaling support such as DLSS for Skyrim.
This mod exists though: Skyrim Upscaler - DLSS FSR2 XeSS [www.nexusmods.com]
There's no way a game runs better while being rendered at x2 x4 x8 whatever times the native or any other resolution since it doesn't make sense and obviously requires more processing power to do so. DSR/VSR is usually used when a game lacks anti-aliasing.

Not talking about DLSS.

DSR... It gives you much nicer resolution and fits it all into your desktop resolution. I am using it and it 's the difference between night and day, it made my game looks a lot better and it runs much smoother too.

So I am now running 3840x2160 DSR when normally i could only run it in 1920x1080

[StreamWhenGuy]

Originally posted by Neo:

Not talking about DLSS.

DSR... It gives you much nicer resolution and fits it all into your desktop resolution. I am using it and it 's the difference between night and day, it made my game looks a lot better and it runs much smoother too.

So I am now running 3840x2160 DSR when normally i could only run it in 1920x1080

I get what you mean. I didn't even quote you specifically. I was just saying that there's no native DLSS or any other upscaling algorithms as a bottom line for OP to understand.
Still don't know how running the game at 2160p makes it run smoother than 1080p, but that's another topic. If your GPU can handle it, the FPS will stay the same at best, but the workload grows exponentially the higher the resolution a game is being rendered at.

[SgtPow3rs]

Originally posted by sdack:

Get an RTX 4060 Ti. The Ti's perform much better, because of their greater memory bandwidth, and you need this for 1440p and higher.

Really? Is it such big difference...?

[Neo]

Originally posted by StreamWhenGuy:

Originally posted by Neo:

Not talking about DLSS.

DSR... It gives you much nicer resolution and fits it all into your desktop resolution. I am using it and it 's the difference between night and day, it made my game looks a lot better and it runs much smoother too.

So I am now running 3840x2160 DSR when normally i could only run it in 1920x1080

I get what you mean. I didn't even quote you specifically. I was just saying that there's no native DLSS or any other upscaling algorithms as a bottom line for OP to understand.
Still don't know how running the game at 2160p makes it run smoother than 1080p, but that's another topic. If your GPU can handle it, the FPS will stay the same at best, but the workload grows exponentially the higher the resolution a game is being rendered at.

Yeah sorry, was still annoyed from the other guy saying I confused DSR with DLSS, then he goes on to explain DSR basically how I described it. Then you chimed in about DLSS too and you took the brunt of my annoyance.

Yeah it will make your GPU work a little harder, but a rtx 4060 shouldn't sweat too much. I think it makes the game look much smoother to my eye, I don't notice any slow down at all on my rtx 4070. But one thing is for sure, it makes the game look fantastic.

Cheers.

[LostME]

It all depends on the mod pack. I have no problem playing immersive and epic collection from nexusmods. More than 100 gigabytes of 4k textures with enb. Yes, I playing in 1080p but I have an old rtx2070s.

[SgtPow3rs]

Originally posted by LostME:

It all depends on the mod pack. I have no problem playing immersive and epic collection from nexusmods. More than 100 gigabytes of 4k textures with enb. Yes, I playing in 1080p but I have an old rtx2070s.

I run my own mod list, always with performance in mind. I try to keep it Vanilla-like, just better ofcourse. The most demanding part is the ENB, like always.

I can run Skyrim 1440p 60fps with my 1080 gtx, but with mods? Nope.

[LostME]

Originally posted by SgtPow3rs:

Originally posted by LostME:

It all depends on the mod pack. I have no problem playing immersive and epic collection from nexusmods. More than 100 gigabytes of 4k textures with enb. Yes, I playing in 1080p but I have an old rtx2070s.

I run my own mod list, always with performance in mind. I try to keep it Vanilla-like, just better ofcourse. The most demanding part is the ENB, like always.

I can run Skyrim 1440p 60fps with my 1080 gtx, but with mods? Nope.

Unfortunately, there are too many mods right now. Tons of patches for fixes for patches for fixes mods, etc. That's why I use collections. Maybe I can play in 2k resolution, but the display is 1080.

[Photonboy]

GTX1080 vs RTX4060 vs RTX4070
1) On my GTX1080, I played modded SKYRIM (with mainly 2K/4K texture packs) at 2560x1440, max in-game settings and mostly maintained a solid 60FPS (a few dips).

(I have a Ryzen 3000 CPU but I could maintain 60FPS with my old i7-3770K + GTX1080 I believe).

2) The RTX4060 for most games (raster so ignoring ray-tracing etc) gets roughly 50% faster. So it's honestly not a huge upgrade over a GTX1080, but for SKYRIM will be enough to smooth out those dips.

3) on my RTX4070, in modded SKyrim AE, I monitored the GPU usage (keeping "prefer maximum performance" enabled in NVidia Control Panel as I got stutters in some games due to frequency fluctuations) and WITHOUT ENB etc (so again 1440p, 2K/4K texture packs) I rarely went above 50% usage but mostly was closer to 40% usage (which exactly matches what I expected as the RTX4070 for raster is ROUGHLY about 2.5x faster vs the GTX1080).

4) ENB:
Here's where you'll start to lose FPS that may get you below 60FPS but it's going to vary so you'd have to do your research as those solutions vary.

5) DSR:
I had issues periodically with the screen not working properly on launch if I chose a higher resolution than my monitor supports. But you can try, though at this point I'd much rather have a GTX1080 + 1440p monitor than an RTX4060 and a 1080p monitor. I'd recommend a 1440p monitor and running the game at 1440p. It looks pretty good at that resolution to me.

Conclusion:
I really can't recommend an RTX4060 considering the small uplift in performance. I'd get an RTX4070 (for minimum performance uplift and 12GB should be the new minimum) even if you need to WAIT. In the following chart for most games (no RT/DLSS) just substitute the RTX2060 card in for the GTX1080: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4060-gaming-x/32.html

You WILL have enough headroom with an RTX4060 to mostly maintain 60FPS, at 1440p with 2K/4K texture packs and only really rare dips. And SHOULD have enough to mostly maintain 60FPS at 1440p if you're messing with ENB lighting (though I gave up on ENB as there were too many issues for me including areas that were too dark).

Side note on STUTTERS:
I'm currently not using SKSE due to recent game updates so I just did a clean install without it. So I'm not using some STUTTER fixes that requires SKSE. But... the game runs really SMOOTHLY at 60FPS (VSYNC) if I check the Borderless and Windowed Mode options on the launcher.

GSYNC should work great if you have a monitor that supports that though you probably should cap to 60FPS due to physics issues etc (may be patches. IDK.)