I'm angry asf (Creations club)

[DarkEmpire]

And very disappointed in angry about this,,

It's all those works weeks to get everything working
And bethesda decide to change a little bit for their own advantage, for stupid creation Club...

So I have updated much that I am able to do for now
But still the game crash on launching...

They can push Creation Club somewhere in Douw where the sun doesn't shine
I Totally Don't Care About This Money Grab Stuff

[Tac Bravo]

Publicado originalmente por Paladestar:

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

Yes - All you do is set Skyrim to only update when you launch it... Then always/only use SKSE to launch the game... Thats all you have to do, problem solved... :cozybethesda:

Then one day, unbeknownst or accidentally, you click your SKSE shortcut with Steam closed, which opens Steam and starts the game updating. Everything was fine until they took the "never update this game" option away.

Make your app manifest file read only.
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/18b212t/meta_so_skyrim_is_getting_another_update/

[AbsynthMinded]

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

Publicado originalmente por AbsynthMinded:

Bethesda does not care about facts. If they did they would stop pushing Creation Club. There is every indication and historical evidence that this system will continue to fail and stagnate. Whatever perks Bethesda claim there are, it's a lie. It's always proven to be a lie. Creation Club is about control. Frogs in a slowly Boiling Pot. If they can ever normalize it or fix the Creation Engine to lock out 3rd party sites, Creation Club will be the only gateway for Mods.

That's the goal. was always the goal. Bethesda does not give a frack about any of us, critics and boot licking shills's alike.

No its not - BGS would crash hard if they blocked 3rd party mods and they know it... Free mods are not going anywhere...

Not the point. That BGS wants to own the Gateway for Mods is. That they can't lock out the 3rd party sites has more to do with Creation Engine being made of Swiss Cheese. When they update to fix the Engine, or otherwise find a way to shut out 3rd parties, then how will you feel about it..? Cuz that is, was and always will be the goal. To make their gateway the only gateway to obtain any mods, free or paid.

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

They have been 'selling mods' since the creation club started back in 2016 or so... This is nothing but an updated version of that... No need for anyone to panic...

Being aggravated by bad business decisions is not a 'panic'. No one is in a panic. The timing is sus, the reasoning is sus and the update content that was provided is lame.. So ya.. everyone should be looking at this with suspicion. My leading theory continues to be, break Skyrim after releasing a tone of free content, to cover suspicions. Then everyone will migrate to other games, a percentage of them will go to Starfield, to boost daily numbers.

Released Sept 6 to midling reviews and a wide spectrum of complaints. Through Black Friday already 20% off, now an ongoing extended 30% off.. By Xmas I'd bet it goes to 40%..

[MrNewVegas87]

Publicado originalmente por AbsynthMinded:

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

No its not - BGS would crash hard if they blocked 3rd party mods and they know it... Free mods are not going anywhere...

Not the point. That BGS wants to own the Gateway for Mods is. That they can't lock out the 3rd party sites has more to do with Creation Engine being made of Swiss Cheese. When they update to fix the Engine, or otherwise find a way to shut out 3rd parties, then how will you feel about it..? Cuz that is, was and always will be the goal. To make their gateway the only gateway to obtain any mods, free or paid.

https://youtu.be/2GgrhqxX-j0

[AbsynthMinded]

Historical Citation is that they keep pushing a system that is not needed and provides no benefit to the players. None.

[MrNewVegas87]

Publicado originalmente por AbsynthMinded:

Historical Citation is that they keep pushing a system that is not needed and provides no benefit to the players. None.

That's suppositional at best, as in assumes motives and intentions, but you do you homie.

[Tac Bravo]

Publicado originalmente por AbsynthMinded:

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

No its not - BGS would crash hard if they blocked 3rd party mods and they know it... Free mods are not going anywhere...

Not the point. That BGS wants to own the Gateway for Mods is. That they can't lock out the 3rd party sites has more to do with Creation Engine being made of Swiss Cheese. When they update to fix the Engine, or otherwise find a way to shut out 3rd parties, then how will you feel about it..? Cuz that is, was and always will be the goal. To make their gateway the only gateway to obtain any mods, free or paid.

It is a major reason we are exiting support for Skyrim beyond AE game version 1.6.1130+ or GOG AE game version 1.6.659+.. It is not the only reason. The whole antics with the Skyrim licensing hammer shined a light on how vulnerable we are at the business level, I made the decision that our corporation will be deprecating every Microsoft product or service including SQL, Teams, Azure, Copilot, Windows, Office, ChatGPT, and more, within three years. For all those services, we already have alternatives in place and suddenly those are all looking a lot more attractive,

[vonbleak]

Publicado originalmente por Tac Bravo:

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

Im not arguing - Just stating the facts... You cant argue with facts... And the fact is that unless you mod your game this update will have zero impact on you/anyone if they choose too... Its nothing new, and i dont know why people are acting like it is...

That is untrue. people who purchased AE before the update cannot control AE from the main menu anymore for all game versions prior to 1.6.40, with or without mods. When I consider the incentives to upgrade, there are none. Holding my paid content hostage and making release contingent on upgrade only engenders massive reputational disdain and prompts an an exit from anything that has a Microsoft name on an invoice. We decided we deserve an extremely more ethical and deserving gaming or business partner in the future.

Unless you are using unofficial mods there is no reason not to get the upgrade though...

[AbsynthMinded]

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

Publicado originalmente por Tac Bravo:

That is untrue. people who purchased AE before the update cannot control AE from the main menu anymore for all game versions prior to 1.6.40, with or without mods. When I consider the incentives to upgrade, there are none. Holding my paid content hostage and making release contingent on upgrade only engenders massive reputational disdain and prompts an an exit from anything that has a Microsoft name on an invoice. We decided we deserve an extremely more ethical and deserving gaming or business partner in the future.

Unless you are using unofficial mods there is no reason not to get the upgrade though...

The AE released all the DLC as free content. The only reason I went that far. My version of Gate to Sovngarde requires AE content. Rolling back to SE would be a rather obnoxiously complicated path to follow.

Publicado originalmente por MrNewVegas87:

Publicado originalmente por AbsynthMinded:

Historical Citation is that they keep pushing a system that is not needed and provides no benefit to the players. None.

That's suppositional at best, as in assumes motives and intentions, but you do you homie.

If your assumption is that BGS is all White Hats and Best Intentions, I'd believe you are not being genuine in your argument. The history shows BGS's intentions are not in favor of the players or modders. Never were.

[Tac Bravo]

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

Unless you are using unofficial mods there is no reason not to get the upgrade though...

You raise a valid point. Some people will never mod for any reason, or use any official mods or using official mods is the preferred game play setup.

[Nate]

What if I WANT to break my game so I can finally curb my Skyrim addiction

[Tac Bravo]

Publicado originalmente por Nate:

What if I WANT to break my game so I can finally curb my Skyrim addiction

I am in that same boat with you. When I look at this from the perspective of my own addiction I see that I really was, too. Thankfully, Microsoft in their genius psychiatric capacity recognized that I had too much enjoyment from playing, modding, and testing the game and it was clearly classified as DSM violating by ChatGPT.

So, they had me swill down a strange concoction to get rid of it. The cure was quite strong and not only cured my addition to Skyrim, but also worked to cure me of any and all addictions or desire for anything Microsoft.

Anyway, yeah, we both have the option in the EULA where the lawyers have hit us with a whopping 18 word dragon shout: "IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THIS SOFTWARE." Whoa, one-shot, one-kill, what can I say?

I am going to leave it installed, but i have to confess it is so weird to actually feel pain when launching the game now. It's especially painful since I am a teetotaler and cannot use large quantities of alcohol for a refuge. The treatment, while raw and harsh, worked quite well. Now I am in Steam group therapy to help with recovery up to and possibly to include an extended stay at a residential treatment facility. So that is my story. [/me] Hangs head low and considers the spectral atomic backscatter of the dirt in the carbon organic structures beneath my boots. May Mara be with you.

[MrNewVegas87]

Publicado originalmente por AbsynthMinded:

If your assumption is that BGS is all White Hats and Best Intentions, I'd believe you are not being genuine in your argument. The history shows BGS's intentions are not in favor of the players or modders. Never were.

Uh, no first I am not the one making assumptions about anyone's intentions to such an extent, that was kind of the point I was hinting at what you are doing in your posts. But I don't assume that the people that signed off on the CC as it currently exists, most notably any publishers that exist over BGS such as Bethesda Softworks or Zenimax, or now Microsoft too, have any intentions that are not motivated by anything but profit in mind, however I am hesitant to say that the game developers, Bethesda Game Studios, have the same intentions as the publishers, because developers and publishers are (usually) not motivated for the same reasons.

It's worth pointing out however, that if BGS NEVER had the modders and players interests at heart as you say, then why release the CK for all their their single player games so far, for free?

[adpere]

This is interesting! Clicking on the “Manage Downloads” tag, located at the bottom, center of the Game Library, I get the message notification that I have completely downloaded 9.9 MB of the 9.9 MB update, but a “DISK WRITE” error is preventing the update from installing…