I wish people would quit saying Bethesda. They are a division of Microsoft now

[Rabblevox]

Don't blame this on Todd. (blame plenty of other stuff on him, but not this). Don't blame it on Bethesda in general. After Microsoft bought them, MS immediately cut Bethesda creative staff (about 300 game programmers, artists, and writers), and replaced them with Xbox Live staff.

Game companies have a life-cycle before they burnout or sellout. Bethesda reached theirs in '21 with the Microsoft acquisition.

But honestly, can anyone except the most virginal of newbies claim they haven't gotten their money's worth out of Skyrim? Even if (like me), you've paid for three versions of the same game?

I feel like Donna from Doctor Who needs to come in, smack some heads, and pour tea now. ;)

[A. Silvermane]

Just because Bethesda is owned by Microsoft doesn't mean they cease to exist. Also nobody in North America with a shred of self worth watches Doctor Who, its a dead show.

[Muddy]

Originally posted by A. Silvermane:

Just because Bethesda is owned by Microsoft doesn't mean they cease to exist. Also nobody in North America with a shred of self worth watches Doctor Who, its a dead show.

New Doctor Who I love - They went back to their roots like Beth should have lol. MS is greedy tho and I still don't get why companies can piss on customers then act surprised at profit margins lol

[Rabblevox]

Originally posted by A. Silvermane:

Just because Bethesda is owned by Microsoft doesn't mean they cease to exist. Also nobody in North America with a shred of self worth watches Doctor Who, its a dead show.

Says Mr Zero anything.
So tell, me, wise one, your take on the gaming and entertainment industries?
This should be fun!

[A. Silvermane]

Originally posted by Rabblevox:

So tell, me, wise one, your take on the gaming and entertainment industries?

It's corrupted whether by greed, politics, or poor design take your pick.

[Rabblevox]

Originally posted by Muddy:

I still don't get why companies can piss on customers then act surprised at profit margins lol

It's pretty simple, really. If the mega-rich own production, and supply, and media, and politics...WELL THEN LETS STICK FLOWERS IN THEIR GUNS AND SAY WE DON'T APPROVE!!
(that'll show 'em)

[Rabblevox]

Originally posted by A. Silvermane:

Originally posted by Rabblevox:

So tell, me, wise one, your take on the gaming and entertainment industries?

It's corrupted whether by greed, politics, or poor design take your pick.

So...you're a hater, without an original idea.
How refreshing!

[A. Silvermane]

Originally posted by Rabblevox:

So...you're a hater, without an original idea.
How refreshing!

And you accuse me of being unoriginal. Cute.

[steventirey]

Bethesda is still owned by Zenimax just like they have been for decades. Microsoft didn't buy Bethesda - they bought Zenimax. Microsoft likely has nothing to do with Bethesda itself.

[Valden21]

Do an Internet search on "Skyrim". The very first sentence of the very first entry says that the game was made by Bethesda, and published by Bethesda. Not Microsoft, but Bethesda. For the most part, Microsoft seems to be leaving Bethesda alone.

[durundallives]

Originally posted by Rabblevox:

Don't blame this on Todd. (blame plenty of other stuff on him, but not this). Don't blame it on Bethesda in general. After Microsoft bought them, MS immediately cut Bethesda creative staff (about 300 game programmers, artists, and writers), and replaced them with Xbox Live staff.

Game companies have a life-cycle before they burnout or sellout. Bethesda reached theirs in '21 with the Microsoft acquisition.

But honestly, can anyone except the most virginal of newbies claim they haven't gotten their money's worth out of Skyrim? Even if (like me), you've paid for three versions of the same game?

I feel like Donna from Doctor Who needs to come in, smack some heads, and pour tea now. ;)

With all due respect I hear what you are trying to say, but you are committing the same cardinal sin as the rest of us: You are talking like you know who made the actual call, and you dont actually know from where the orders came from. You are just guessing.

That said, we do have some historical evidence that predates microsoft getting attached which shows that bugthesda is absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ enough to try this sort of parasitic behavior.

We also can see quite clearly that the trash at the support department will continue to try and marketing speak around it, and tell customers what they should actually want. Both observations are independent of M$. both are behavior that needs to be punished by the consumer. Businesses derive value for consumers, which justify sales consumers purchasing their goods. That is how it needs to be, and there are a lot of very stupid people that need to be brutally reminded of that.

[qwert_44643]

i will pay for any god mods dont really care if i got to pay for the mods time he spent on makig a good mod...people just feel like everything should be giing to them...times ae changing and aint nothing gointo change that......bou damn time modders gt compensated beside getting a few stars.

[BINARYGOD]

given they tried this before, more than once actually, before MS even had a thought of purchasing, or rather, before Zenimax wanted to sell - how is it MS's fault?

Hey if it makes you feel better, go with lies. The post truth generation soldiers on.

[Doom Sayer]

They were ♥♥♥♥ years and years pre microsoft. It cant really get any worse Bethesda has already been as bad as 343 games.

[Rabblevox]

Originally posted by Doom Sayer:

They were ♥♥♥♥ years and years pre microsoft. It cant really get any worse Bethesda has already been as bad as 343 games.

And yet, you keep giving them your money and attention. Stockholm syndrome much?

[A. Silvermane]

Paid 'Creations' - No SKSE
Free Mods - SKSE

Free will always be the better option, nothing Bethesda can do about it even with Starfield, not unless they create their own script extender which they won't.