Will The Elder Scroll VI perform and be good as we hope ? Should be worry ?

[orcama60]

After the failure of Starfield, we have been asking if we should worry about TESVI. My opinion is YES and NO.
NO ... because it will be another game and if it is bad, I won't buy it. Period.
YES ... and very debatable 'yes' ....
... but before anything, do yourself a favor and watch in YouTube, the video named :

" MODDERS SAY 'STARFIELD' can't be fixed .... by Luke Stephens .....

... watch it and read the comments by real modders and professional programmers and after that, just make your conclusion if the upcoming TESVI could be a failure or a great hit.

One thing that you need to keep in mind :
- If Bethes-dead uses its new Engine 2 to develop TESVI, it will be very outdated by 2029-2030 in compare to other engines that will make out of other games, to look not just beautiful but they will perform much better with so much better mechanic that Engine 2 can offer.
- If Bethes-dead uses its new Engine 2 to develop TESVI, the game will have a lot of limitations that modders will have a very hard time to fix.

In my opinion, if Bethes-dead would like to gain our trust and regain us as customers and get a lot of profit with that game, they would have to change 180 degrees their entire mentality and customer's approaching. First of all, they would have to create a new Engine that will be good enough and comparable with those engines other companies will have by 2029-2030. In order to compete, you have to have something very good by then and I really doubt it that Bethes-dead will be able to create a different Engine at this point.

If modders and programmers are having a really hard time now to fix Starfield and they are saying that this game cannot be fixed, just think about what could happen with TESVI if Bethes-dead do not fix their crappy Engine 2. Watch the video and read the comments.

[Neo]

Starfield is fine. Yes TES 6 will be fine too.

[alexander_dougherty]

Starfield can be fixed, Bethesda just needs to put stuff on planets....

TES6 will initially be bad too, may or may not be improved upon, no way to know until the launch it.

[Team Vladof]

I think Bethesda is pushing for higher monetization of mods, so ES6 will come out without a construction kit and they'll find some way to make it harder for modders to mod the game for free.

I also think Bethesda will chunk out things we've gotten for free in the past, like guild quest lines, as paid DLC's / paid mods in ES6.

That said.. I thought after seeing the Horse Armor in Oblivion that we'd see them making DLC of all the questlines in ES5. But, Skyrim came out and had a ton of stuff packed into it.

So.. maybe ES6 will still be a fully fleshed-out game, and the paid mods / dlc's will just be clothes, spiffy weapons and that kind of stuff.

I think Zenimax pushed Bethesda to try to monetize in the past, but the huge free mod community with the games made it difficult to monetize what already was. But, Microsoft pushed monetization onto Minecraft in a big way. And now MS owns Bethesda. So, I foresee a massive push for monetization, and only way they can do that is by finding a way to shut-out free mods.

basically, I'm not holding my breath for ES6.

I used to build a new computer each time an Elder Scrolls came out, mainly b/c they were under-optimized and needed lots of horsepower. So, I knew if my build could handle latest ES game, I knew it could handle anything else I'd throw at it. I'm getting to the age where I'm getting bored with gaming, and only looking forward to a few key games coming up. I'm actually sad at the thought of ES6 coming out, and not feeling like it's worth building a new computer to play it. It'll be the end of an era for me.

[Zero McDol]

I don't see why Elder Scrolls 6 wouldn't be fine. Just my opinion of course.

edit:
Too many questions in the OP, so I had to edit my comment.

[Death Approaches]

Oh, you think Bethesda is doing that, huh? Not their cooporate owner who just spent billions and billions of dollars hedging on the future of gaming, buying up dozens of game dev shops over the pandemic? What did the Blizzard/Activision thing cost them, alone? 70 Billion? What was Bethesda, 1? 2? That's still an insane amount of money.

But yeah, it's Bethesda pushing for IGPs and monetization mechanisms to be retrofitted to older titles. Uh huh.

[orcama60]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Starfield can be fixed, Bethesda just needs to put stuff on planets....

TES6 will initially be bad too, may or may not be improved upon, no way to know until the launch it.

>>> Are you a modder or programmer to confirm what you said ? Did you read the comments on that video ? There are some modders and programmers saying that it cannot be fixed ... can you tell me then why you are saying that SF can be fixed ?

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by orcama60:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Starfield can be fixed, Bethesda just needs to put stuff on planets....

TES6 will initially be bad too, may or may not be improved upon, no way to know until the launch it.

>>> Are you a modder or programmer to confirm what you said ? Did you read the comments on that video ? There are some modders and programmers saying that it cannot be fixed ... can you tell me then why you are saying that SF can be fixed ?

pf course it can be fixed.
mod authors have to use the engine as it is.
bethesda can make tweeks to the engine.
mods can't fix the game, but bethesda can...... it's just a case of whether they will or not....

[Fitness Lauch]

I doubt that TES6 will be as good as the previous games. Fallout 76 was a complete disaster and Starfield is only mediocre.
Don't know why they are so stubborn with their engine and refuse to use Unreal instead for example. CDPR also developed Witcher 3 in Unreal while developing Cyberpunk in their own engine and they pretty much admitted that it was a significant mistake to not use Unreal there as well. But no, have to reinvent the wheel instead...

[Abisha]

unlikely reason they wanna have a extra piece of the pie.

[UsernameTaken666]

Yes.

[WhateverWorks]

Well...if TES VI is bad, I can just keep playing Oblivion more than any other video game like I currently do. As it is I've played Oblivion for a few thousand more hours than I have Skyrim.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Fitness Lauch:

Don't know why they are so stubborn with their engine and refuse to use Unreal instead for example.

Because they have sunk so much money into it.
And because they would have to sink money into getting the unreal engine to where they want it.

Not going to defend it, it's clear to most people the engine has developed deep flaws that can't be easily fixed. But I can understand why they take that stance over it.

[Abisha]

Unreal engine is great but very difficult to work with this go's for devs and modders.
even Unity would make more sense

[WhateverWorks]

It could also be that they're trying to provide a product that easily lends itself to modding, both installation and creation of mods is a HUGE factor for many people that play these games. If they switched to something that isn't as readily moddable, or something they couldn't provide their own mod tools for, I don't think it's unrealistic to say they could lose millions of dollars.

I wouldn't even buy an Elder Scrolls game that didn't also have official mod tools provided by Bethesda, let alone play one much more than a few weeks. I'm just one person but I can't be the only one.

[sdack]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Starfield can be fixed, Bethesda just needs to put stuff on planets....

I have not played it yet, but I do keep reading about planets and space being empty. I have to wonder if it is not just based on false expectations. Skyrim and Fallout 4 have quite the populated maps, too much for my taste. The world maps of Skyrim and Fallout 4 should have been three times larger but with the same amount of locations in them to make travel interesting. The maps as they are now make it boring, because one only needs to walk a minute to find oneself in the next town. For anyone who finds this too much is there still the option of fast-travelling, which in my opinion has always been overkill. Morrowind was a lot better in this regard, because it only had limited fast-travelling.

So is Starfield this empty, or are today's players too focused on having everything packed together like in Skyrim and Fallout 4?