No matter what I do I cannot get an Alternate start mod to work - LAL / Unbound both fail

[Ow-Chi]

Hello all,

I cant seem to get either of the most common alternate start mod to work - have tried Skyrim Unbound Reborn, Alternate Start - Live Another Life
and no matter what I do, creating a new game always just throws me into the standard cinematic snoozefest that I am trying to avoid. I dont even care about all the "You are not the Dragonborn!" and other changes I just want to skip the opening sequence.

Skyrim SE 1.6.640.0.8 (SKSE64 2.2.3 rel 6)

Am using Vortex and LOOT. I dont really have a lot of mods installed at this point:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 SkyUI_SE.esp
9 9 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
10 a ELFX - Exteriors.esp
11 b ELFX - Weathers.esp
254 FE 2 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
12 c iHUD.esp
13 d Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Cloaks.esp
14 e Immersive Patrols II.esp
254 FE 3 NK_WalkSpeed.esp
15 f RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
16 10 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
17 11 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Convenient Horses.esp


What has been happening is when I try to use either of these (LAL or Unbound) I never see them in the Mod Config menu. I see SkyUI and Immersive HUD, but never the alternate start mods. I discovered that sometimes it can take a while for MCMs to load but I busted that with multiple tries of just playing for a while (upwards of 30 minutes once, if thats not long enough I dont know what is).

I even ripped all other mods out and ONLY used LAL/Unbound (along with any pre-reqs) it just never works. Nothing in MCM and starting a new game, same as always. All of the mods listed above work jsut fine, even if I try to load LAL/Unbound they still work but there is never the option for an alternate start.

Any ideas what else I can look at? Even if there is another Alternate start mod I would be interested, all I really want is to be able to bypass that slogfest every time I want to start a new character.

[smr1957]

Alternate Start does not have an MCM, though that does not explain why it is not showing up in your load order. Did you try hitting the Deploy button in Vortex?

[Altbert]

For Skyrim Unbound you can use the following statement in the console:

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

[Liquid Inc]

引用自 Ow-Chi：

Hello all,

I cant seem to get either of the most common alternate start mod to work - have tried Skyrim Unbound Reborn, Alternate Start - Live Another Life
and no matter what I do, creating a new game always just throws me into the standard cinematic snoozefest that I am trying to avoid. I dont even care about all the "You are not the Dragonborn!" and other changes I just want to skip the opening sequence.

Skyrim SE 1.6.640.0.8 (SKSE64 2.2.3 rel 6)

Am using Vortex and LOOT. I dont really have a lot of mods installed at this point:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 SkyUI_SE.esp
9 9 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
10 a ELFX - Exteriors.esp
11 b ELFX - Weathers.esp
254 FE 2 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
12 c iHUD.esp
13 d Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Cloaks.esp
14 e Immersive Patrols II.esp
254 FE 3 NK_WalkSpeed.esp
15 f RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
16 10 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
17 11 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Convenient Horses.esp


What has been happening is when I try to use either of these (LAL or Unbound) I never see them in the Mod Config menu. I see SkyUI and Immersive HUD, but never the alternate start mods. I discovered that sometimes it can take a while for MCMs to load but I busted that with multiple tries of just playing for a while (upwards of 30 minutes once, if thats not long enough I dont know what is).

I even ripped all other mods out and ONLY used LAL/Unbound (along with any pre-reqs) it just never works. Nothing in MCM and starting a new game, same as always. All of the mods listed above work jsut fine, even if I try to load LAL/Unbound they still work but there is never the option for an alternate start.

Any ideas what else I can look at? Even if there is another Alternate start mod I would be interested, all I really want is to be able to bypass that slogfest every time I want to start a new character.

ASLAL doesn't have an MCM, it just puts you straight into a jail cell when you hit new game, and straight into character creation.

If when you have ASLAL installed, it's not doing so when you hit new game, then it's not installed correctly or something is removing ASLAL's changes, though i don't see any potential problem mods in that list...

The only reason i can see these not working is if your trying to use a version that doesn't work with 1.6.640...
Did you get ASLAL from Arthmoor's site? Im unsure if the one on Nexus is fully up to date, but im sure Arthmoor will reply if it or isn't since they are active on the forums here.

i've never had this issue, so the only thing i can think of is **MAKE SURE Vortex is ENABLING the plugin in the PLUGINS TAB**. Sometimes Vortex installs and enables a plugin, but then disables it in the plugins tab (For some odd reason) So double check there.

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

If it's not showing up as a mod you installed you have a serious problem on your hands with your mod manager of choice.

Either it's installing to the incorrect location or it's just flat out broken for some weird reason. Either way isn't good and you'll need to fix that before installing more mods or baaaad things will continue to happen.

[Ow-Chi]

引用自 smr1957：

Alternate Start does not have an MCM, though that does not explain why it is not showing up in your load order. Did you try hitting the Deploy button in Vortex?

Thanks, yes I have deployed. Often. Uninstalled, reinstalled, deeply, uninstall, try again, etc.

And to clarify, the load list I posted is withoutt either mod installed/enabled - I wanted to point out my starting point. And when I did try those, LOOT always put them last which is what I believe should be happening.

引用自 Altbert：

For Skyrim Unbound you can use the following statement in the console:

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

What does this do?

引用自 Liquid Inc：

ASLAL doesn't have an MCM, it just puts you straight into a jail cell when you hit new game, and straight into character creation.

If when you have ASLAL installed, it's not doing so when you hit new game, then it's not installed correctly or something is removing ASLAL's changes, though i don't see any potential problem mods in that list...

The only reason i can see these not working is if your trying to use a version that doesn't work with 1.6.640...
Did you get ASLAL from Arthmoor's site? Im unsure if the one on Nexus is fully up to date, but im sure Arthmoor will reply if it or isn't since they are active on the forums here.

i've never had this issue, so the only thing i can think of is **MAKE SURE Vortex is ENABLING the plugin in the PLUGINS TAB**. Sometimes Vortex installs and enables a plugin, but then disables it in the plugins tab (For some odd reason) So double check there.

Ok, I wasnt sure if there was an MCM for either of these, but since the alternate starts were not working I thought it was a good thing to check, good to know I can stop worrying about that.

As far as where I got it, it was from Nexus - are you saying that I should find it somewhere else?

引用自 Bad Distraction Carnifex：

If it's not showing up as a mod you installed you have a serious problem on your hands with your mod manager of choice.

Either it's installing to the incorrect location or it's just flat out broken for some weird reason. Either way isn't good and you'll need to fix that before installing more mods or baaaad things will continue to happen.

Again sorry for the confusion, the mod list I posted shows where I am at *before* I try to use either of these. Although since I pulled EVERYTHING out and only tried each one separately with the same results its sort of moot anyway.

Thanks for the tips so far - still hoping I can get this working.

[ralphtobybob]

Your post seems to suggest that you're using both LAL and Unbound. They're not compatible. Unbound uses a script. It's possible that, if you uninstalled it the script is still loading. I've had that happen before, after uninstalling Unbound.
If that's not the case, unzip Alternate Start and New Beginnings directly into the Skyrim SE\data directory. I don't use Vortex but there's no reason it shouldn't see it.
I'm using the version from 2019 w/o problems with Skyrim SE version 1.6.640.0

[Ow-Chi]

引用自 ralphtobybob：

Your post seems to suggest that you're using both LAL and Unbound.

Sorry I can see how it It may suggest that, but believe me there was never any time when both of them were installed at once - perhaps I wasnt clear but what I mean to point out is that I have been unable to get either one to work, individually.

In fact I think I would be too embarrassed to come here and say "hey I am running both LAL and Unbound at the same time and it no workie". I would expect, and deserve to get donkey punched. :P

[Altbert]

引用自 Ow-Chi：

引用自 Altbert：

For Skyrim Unbound you can use the following statement in the console:

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

What does this do?

This will re-configure any MCM mod you have. Useful when an MCM mod doesn't show up in the menu.

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

引用自 Ow-Chi：

引用自 smr1957：

Alternate Start does not have an MCM, though that does not explain why it is not showing up in your load order. Did you try hitting the Deploy button in Vortex?

Thanks, yes I have deployed. Often. Uninstalled, reinstalled, deeply, uninstall, try again, etc.

And to clarify, the load list I posted is withoutt either mod installed/enabled - I wanted to point out my starting point. And when I did try those, LOOT always put them last which is what I believe should be happening.

引用自 Altbert：

For Skyrim Unbound you can use the following statement in the console:

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

What does this do?

引用自 Liquid Inc：

ASLAL doesn't have an MCM, it just puts you straight into a jail cell when you hit new game, and straight into character creation.

If when you have ASLAL installed, it's not doing so when you hit new game, then it's not installed correctly or something is removing ASLAL's changes, though i don't see any potential problem mods in that list...

The only reason i can see these not working is if your trying to use a version that doesn't work with 1.6.640...
Did you get ASLAL from Arthmoor's site? Im unsure if the one on Nexus is fully up to date, but im sure Arthmoor will reply if it or isn't since they are active on the forums here.

i've never had this issue, so the only thing i can think of is **MAKE SURE Vortex is ENABLING the plugin in the PLUGINS TAB**. Sometimes Vortex installs and enables a plugin, but then disables it in the plugins tab (For some odd reason) So double check there.

Ok, I wasnt sure if there was an MCM for either of these, but since the alternate starts were not working I thought it was a good thing to check, good to know I can stop worrying about that.

As far as where I got it, it was from Nexus - are you saying that I should find it somewhere else?

引用自 Bad Distraction Carnifex：

If it's not showing up as a mod you installed you have a serious problem on your hands with your mod manager of choice.

Either it's installing to the incorrect location or it's just flat out broken for some weird reason. Either way isn't good and you'll need to fix that before installing more mods or baaaad things will continue to happen.

Again sorry for the confusion, the mod list I posted shows where I am at *before* I try to use either of these. Although since I pulled EVERYTHING out and only tried each one separately with the same results its sort of moot anyway.

Thanks for the tips so far - still hoping I can get this working.

You should be able to get it working.

If you're not even seeing the LAL starting room then the mod isn't even registering properly. Is it currently showing in your load order?

If so do you have your bashed/smashes/synthesis patches created and are they last in your load order?

[Ow-Chi]

引用自 Bad Distraction Carnifex：

If you're not even seeing the LAL starting room then the mod isn't even registering properly. Is it currently showing in your load order?

Ok here is what it looks like when I install LAL:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 SkyUI_SE.esp
9 9 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
10 a ELFX - Exteriors.esp
11 b ELFX - Weathers.esp
254 FE 2 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
12 c iHUD.esp
13 d Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
14 e Immersive Patrols II.esp
254 FE 3 NK_WalkSpeed.esp
15 f RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
16 10 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
17 11 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp


So it is showing up, it also shows enabled in plugins. LOOT seems happy with it too.

引用自 Bad Distraction Carnifex：

If so do you have your bashed/smashes/synthesis patches created and are they last in your load order?

Huh? Did I miss a step? All I can find on the LAL description is this:

--
Installation - Nexus Mod Manager

Use the "Download with Manager" button on the Live Another Life page at Skyrim Nexus. The installer should take care of things from there.
Or add it to NMM manually through the "Add File" dialogue.
Then simply make sure NMM has the mod activated.
--

[tulle040657]

If your alternate start plugin was enabled it would have two numbers (decimal and hex) before it's name. Like this:

18 12 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

[Ow-Chi]

引用自 tulle040657：

If your alternate start plugin was enabled it would have two numbers (decimal and hex) before it's name. Like this:

18 12 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Ooook....Vortex tells me it is activated but its not really?

So what is my next step?

[Liquid Inc]

引用自 Ow-Chi：

Ooook....Vortex tells me it is activated but its not really?

So what is my next step?

Which tab are you looking at? In "Mods", it will say Enabled because it's installed, but check the "Plugins" tab.
Scroll down until you find ASLAL and double check it IS enabled in the "Plugins" tab. It should have a *Green* "Enabled" box on the left hand side.
If it is *Grey*, click it, so it "Enables" it, and that will probably fix this.

If it's *Green* there, you have something else interfering but im stumped at what else could be the issue....

[Ow-Chi]

Yep, listed as enabled in both Mods and Plugins. I think I am going to rip everything out and start over, this is silly.

[tulle040657]

引用自 Ow-Chi：

Yep, listed as enabled in both Mods and Plugins. I think I am going to rip everything out and start over, this is silly.

Have you been opening the Mods section of the main game? That has the habit of turn plugins off for some reason