Stendar Take You

[rompier02]

Hi. Been encountering a lot of Orcs & they always say this phrase. Just curious because they follow Malacath. Strange they will say this in battle. Are they divided in their beliefs?

[worm_master]

Why take the name of your god in vain, when u can use some-one elses

[Stardustfire]

The Recruiter Orc from the Vampire Hunters stalking you?
Or just Mobs from the Anti Werewolf Racist Faction (This Silver Guys) hunting you nonestop? (They have a lot of Orcs in there Ranks)

[rompier02]

Most orcs. They say this when you in melee combat. Random ones not just restricted to Silver Hand. Even the old feller who is asking for true death.

[rompier02]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย worm_master:

Why take the name of your god in vain, when u can use some-one elses:crunchychick:

I get your sense of humor.

[worm_master]

I have a sense of humour?

[FauxFurry]

Orcs do not have a god of mercy of their own so they engage in a bit of combat syncretism to invoke one from another pantheon.

[rompier02]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย worm_master:

I have a sense of humour?

Good question?

[alexander_dougherty]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย rompier02:

Hi. Been encountering a lot of Orcs & they always say this phrase. Just curious because they follow Malacath. Strange they will say this in battle. Are they divided in their beliefs?

Malacath is just the god MOST Orcs worship, not all Orcs.
Some Orcs worship Stendar, just as you will find Orcs worshipping any of the other Divines, and any of the other Daedra as well...

But given that Stendar is the GOD OF MERCY it is probably meant ironically.

[Ihateeverybody]

Funny thing. A similar statement is uttered by a character in the first page of the Elder Scrolls novel about the Flying city. My initial response (which I should have followed up on, but I read the whole book and remember NOTHING ABOUT it) was....Lame.

"By Stendarr", I think was the exact quote. ugggh (that's my quote).

Just.....NO.

[theyangman0]

I think it's because since the Divines are the more mainstream religion in Tamriel and Stendarr is the God of Mercy, they're basically saying "Better hope your God of Mercy is watching to save your soul because you'll get no mercy coming from me."

[Valden21]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย alexander_dougherty:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย rompier02:

Hi. Been encountering a lot of Orcs & they always say this phrase. Just curious because they follow Malacath. Strange they will say this in battle. Are they divided in their beliefs?

Malacath is just the god MOST Orcs worship, not all Orcs.
Some Orcs worship Stendar, just as you will find Orcs worshipping any of the other Divines, and any of the other Daedra as well...

But given that Stendar is the GOD OF MERCY it is probably meant ironically.

I'm not sure that it IS ironic. Stendarr's the patron of the Imperial Legion, and historically, service in the Legion is how a lot of orcs gained Imperial citizenship. While it is true that the orcs in the strongholds would hold true to Malacath's worship, I don't think that can be said for all the orcs we see in the game, as there are many orcs we see that DON'T live in the strongholds. There's also places where the teachings of the two deities meet. For example, Malacath helps the underdog and the betrayed, and Stendarr doesn't turn ANYONE away if they need help. I really don't see how those two beliefs conflict, as they're both about helping those who need it.

[rompier02]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Valden21:

For example, Malacath helps the underdog and the betrayed,

I can see the logic in your points but only as far as to those that joined the legion. If you played out the ' Cursed Tribe ' quest , when the orc chief betrayed the Player at the end in the cavern, Malacath didn't help at all. Yes I also played as an Orc in this quest in the past . No aid from the dude. This chief will say the above & ' Pray to Stendar ' among the other mocking lines that he will utter. This coming from a chief who lives in a stronghold.

[Ihateeverybody]

You have to remember that Malacath is a Daedric Prince. These are not Nice people. They are selfish jerks. You don't ever get something for nothing, you mostly get nothing for something.

I don't get it. I just don't get peoples like of them. I am sure it is some anomoly of my brain chemistry.

[Valden21]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย rompier02:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Valden21:

For example, Malacath helps the underdog and the betrayed,

I can see the logic in your points but only as far as to those that joined the legion. If you played out the ' Cursed Tribe ' quest , when the orc chief betrayed the Player at the end in the cavern, Malacath didn't help at all. Yes I also played as an Orc in this quest in the past . No aid from the dude. This chief will say the above & ' Pray to Stendar ' among the other mocking lines that he will utter. This coming from a chief who lives in a stronghold.

In that situation, Malacath most likely felt that his aid was unnecessary. By definition, the Dragonborn's not an underdog, and by betraying you, the chief had invoked Malacath's anger. Malacath's not gonna help someone who doesn't need it, and he outright REFUSES to help someone who commits betrayal.

[rompier02]

True. In most cases in this game. Not restricted to just these Deadra alone. Just look at the fool Delphine or Brynjolf. However some are straight shooters in their dealings. Take Peyrite for example. Kill the Elf & get a magical shield. Malacath too. Kill the giant & the chief & get Volundrong. Or Boethiah.