how many iron daggers have YOU made?!?!?!

[ProxyJames]

so its roughly 2338 daggers to max out smithing with no buffs and we have all done it but how many OVERALL do you think you have made over the years? I have at least made several hundred thousandth if not closer to a mill

[Stardustfire]

hmm i know i done 1 iron dagger at the start when i enter the first own, and thats it for daggers, the rest was House Material and Tons of Training sessions for money...

[SpeedFreak1972]

Not many I have mods to boost my smithing .... just playing the game instead of boring tedious min-maxing

[Chunk Norris ☯]

There's the transmute spell that turns iron into silver into gold. So you level up Alteration.

Craft Jewelry to level up smithing.

Use soul-trap on any soul-gem quality to level up conjuration.

And then use the soul-germs to enchant that Jewelry.

[Docsprock]

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

I mean I am reading all of your posts but...daggers is just faster and cheeper, you go to whiterun, but all the iron from 3 smiths, then go to all the other places, make several hundred daggers, smithing goes up by at least 5, sell several hundred daggers, get speech up less than 10 mins. the dwarven stuff takes at least 30 minutes to get the metal and jewelry is good but you would have to spend several hours getting enough materials to make any meaningful progress, like I have seen the videos and you have to work for awhile before you can actually start the making rings, the iron just goes burr my guy

That is the beauty of this game. You do you. Play it however you want.

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

I mean I am reading all of your posts but...daggers is just faster and cheeper, you go to whiterun, but all the iron from 3 smiths, then go to all the other places, make several hundred daggers, smithing goes up by at least 5, sell several hundred daggers, get speech up less than 10 mins. the dwarven stuff takes at least 30 minutes to get the metal and jewelry is good but you would have to spend several hours getting enough materials to make any meaningful progress, like I have seen the videos and you have to work for awhile before you can actually start the making rings, the iron just goes burr my guy

Why are you still arguing about something that was literally changed over a decade ago? Smithing is raised by the VALUE of your smithed item, Dwarven Bow = much higher value than your Iron Dagger. Besides, you can't expect to even be able to buy and carry all those hundreds/thousands of iron ingots, blacksmiths may only have up to 30

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Not many I have mods to boost my smithing .... just playing the game instead of boring tedious min-maxing

The last 6 months or so of playing I have done the same. Just played. I highly recommend it as well. Spending all the time working towards making myself unkillable and literally an hour later I start over.

[Nate]

i literally made over 20,000 daggers to fill my enemies pockets with to make them slow down because of the weight system when i steal stuff so they cant chase me

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by Mazda3Nate:

i literally made over 20,000 daggers to fill my enemies pockets with to make them slow down because of the weight system when i steal stuff so they cant chase me

I'm assuming you did all that through cheating your own carry weight? Cuz else how would you be able to plant all that weight inside of your enemies as in plural?

[Fitness Lauch]

Spamming iron daggers is literally one of the worst things which you can do. Fastest way is to get a house, plant flowers (don't remember the names of which ones you need to plant) and spam potions. Get the level 50 speech perk and just buy training sessions and/or soul gems and get enchanting to 100. With both enchanting and alchemy at level 100 you can create fortify smithing gear and potions which will make you gain smithing xp way faster because the smithing xp is based off the value of the crafted item. Also buy training sessions whenever possible. Or just do resto loop and get smithing/alchemy to 100 in a second...

It's a very fast way to max out all three crafting professions so that you can finally start a new playthrough because you'll get bored to death after 30 minutes of playing with minmaxed crafting gear.

[Smugass Braixen-Chan]

Training is a bit iffy. I tried doing a playthrough where I always spend all of my Training Points each level, and it got to the point where I was leveling up too fast to keep up, compared to the amount of gold I was making from adventuring.

I got up to level 20 something in a single afternoon of playing.

Gardening and growing your own plants takes a lot of in-game time, if you care about that.

What you want to do is buy Dreugh Wax and Gold Kanet from the Khajiits (Or Blisterwort, Glowing Mushroom, Pearlfish, Sabre Cat Tooth, Spriggan Sap from Alchemists if you can)
Mixing those two ingredients give you the best Fortify Smithing potions.

If they don't have it you can repeatedly punch the Cat and reload the save to reset their store inventory.

(Basically: If an NPC is hostile to you, and you reload a save where they aren't hostile, the game bugs out for a moment before fixing itself. But the side effect is that their inventory resets. It seems to be a hard-coded issue, as not even the Unofficial Patch fixes it)

Or you could just wait for several in game days so that their inventory resets naturally. Since exploiting bugs in Skyrim can have "Fun" results. (In fact, normally when I reload a save, I exit to the main menu first, to prevent any shenanigans, but that's probably excessive)

[Nate]

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

Originally posted by Mazda3Nate:

i literally made over 20,000 daggers to fill my enemies pockets with to make them slow down because of the weight system when i steal stuff so they cant chase me

I'm assuming you did all that through cheating your own carry weight? Cuz else how would you be able to plant all that weight inside of your enemies as in plural?

i have nearly 2000 hours on one play through

[Nate]

Originally posted by Mazda3Nate:

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

I'm assuming you did all that through cheating your own carry weight? Cuz else how would you be able to plant all that weight inside of your enemies as in plural?

i have nearly 2000 hours on one play through

also i modded my game so spawns are increased by 500 percent on everything from npc enemies to items spawning so whenever i see a loot room i literally get flooded with loot flying everywhere

[theyangman0]

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

I mean I am reading all of your posts but...daggers is just faster and cheeper, you go to whiterun, but all the iron from 3 smiths, then go to all the other places, make several hundred daggers, smithing goes up by at least 5, sell several hundred daggers, get speech up less than 10 mins. the dwarven stuff takes at least 30 minutes to get the metal and jewelry is good but you would have to spend several hours getting enough materials to make any meaningful progress, like I have seen the videos and you have to work for awhile before you can actually start the making rings, the iron just goes burr my guy

The only problem I have with making iron daggers is that it's not also making me a profit. You have to spend at least 17 gold to buy the required materials to make and improve one dagger just to sell it for what? At max, maybe 18 gold if you have a completely maxed smithing and speech tree (speech perks included) without any fortify smithing effects? To my profit-focused mind, that just sounds like a disappointing business venture. Unless you add enchanting into the mix of course (Banish Daedra, Paralyze, Turn Undead, etc.).

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by theyangman0:

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

I mean I am reading all of your posts but...daggers is just faster and cheeper, you go to whiterun, but all the iron from 3 smiths, then go to all the other places, make several hundred daggers, smithing goes up by at least 5, sell several hundred daggers, get speech up less than 10 mins. the dwarven stuff takes at least 30 minutes to get the metal and jewelry is good but you would have to spend several hours getting enough materials to make any meaningful progress, like I have seen the videos and you have to work for awhile before you can actually start the making rings, the iron just goes burr my guy

The only problem I have with making iron daggers is that it's not also making me a profit. You have to spend at least 17 gold to buy the required materials to make and improve one dagger just to sell it for what? At max, maybe 18 gold if you have a completely maxed smithing and speech tree (speech perks included) without any fortify smithing effects? To my profit-focused mind, that just sounds like a disappointing business venture. Unless you add enchanting into the mix of course (Banish Daedra, Paralyze, Turn Undead, etc.).

That's exactly why making Dwarven Bows is a more optimized way to do Blacksmithing, it's the cheapest Dwarven item to make and decent in value once you also temper them, and they only need 2 perks in blacksmithing to become available

Blacksmithing is increased by the value of your created items, not by their count like it used to be in vanilla Skyrim at lauch where you could spam iron daggers

I think OP is just trolling at this point tbh

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

Probably less than 20. I don't min-max, I RP in Skyrim.