Items are not recognized bug

[Sonne]

i found a weird bug in one of my playthrough when after reaching whiterun and talking with the jarl he would give you a piece of armor however what happened to me is a massage popped just saying 'added' rather than 'steel armor added' for example and there is no new piece of armor in my inventory. i tried to reload but it didn't solve the problem, when i started a new playthrough i noticed the same thing happened when ralof gives you lockpicks to open the cage at the start of the game so rather than the massage box saying 'lockpicks added' it would say just 'added' and there is no lockpicks in my inventory however i could still use them to unlock the cage and other locked stuff, i am using some mods but even when i disabled all of the mods and verified the integrety of files and ever reinstalled the game the glitch persisted, i noticed when using the player.placeatme command and spawn a lockpick that it would roll on the ground but i can't interact with it (can't pick it up or hold it) and no the ui doesn't show lockpick when hovering over it. it is as if the lockpick have changed from an item to a furniture or an object that i can't interact with, the main issue is not with lockpicks alone i can easily console command to get more the problem is as far as i tested some quest items are also having the same problem the most important one is the clothes given to you by delphine to infeltrat the thalmor embassy which would softlock the game, anyone have an idea what the problem might be ?



Temporary Solution : Turned out the problem is with Update.esm having some line names with error unknown string id , reinstalling and make a clean install didn't fixed the problem for some reason but editing the update.esm with sseedit and resolving the conflict using skyrim.esm did return most of the missing items however there are some line with the error that is not found in the skyrim.esm, i hope this would help anyone with similar problem.

[SpeedFreak1972]

After you disabled the mods (uninstall is even better) did you start the new game? Due to how save games work it could be baked in the save. Also please list your mods and load order.

[Sonne]

引用自 SpeedFreak1972：

After you disabled the mods (uninstall is even better) did you start the new game? Due to how save games work it could be baked in the save. Also please list your mods and load order.

yes, and to not waste any time i used the player.additem a 10 as soon as the game title fade out and again it showed me the 'added' rather than 'lockpicks added' massage, most of the other items works fine like gold and leather armor and wabbajack for example. it is just a few quest items and rewards and lockpicks that doesn't work

[Sonne]

till now the most important stuff missing are the rich clothes given to you by taarie for the side mission, the rich clothes given to you by delphine for the diplomatic immunity mission, all of the lockpicks (ralof , shops,natural spawn ,chest etc) , the first armor given to you from jarl balgruuf, and winterhold coral dragon claw obtained from brina ( i can't see it in inventory and when spawned i can't interact with it but i can use it to open the dungeon doors)

[Sonne]

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
WetandCold.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
MCMHelper.esp
FNIS.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
SRC_ERS.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
FTF_Core.esp
SRC - All In One.esp
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
FTF_Addon.esp
SRC_ERS_Even Better Quest Objectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
Saints and Seducers - Less Obnoxious Elytra Footsteps.esp
CC_Ferry_Patch.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
MLU.esp
MLU - Ars Metallica Patch.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
MLU - ZIA.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Convenient Carriages.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
CC_BYOHDriversPatch.esp
CC_HorseChange_Addon.esp
CC_JKIvarst_Patch.esp
Open Cities Skyrim.esp
JKs Skyrim_Open Cities_Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp
here's the load order

[Sonne]

"0000","DLC: HearthFires"
"0001","DLC: Dragonborn"
"0002","DLC: Dawnguard"
"0003","Creation Club: ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode"
"0004","Creation Club: ccBGSSSE037-Curios"
"0005","Creation Club: ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS"
"0006","Creation Club: ccBGSSSE001-Fish"
"0007","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch"
"0008","SkyUI"
"0009","MCM Helper"
"0010","JK's Skyrim"
"0011","Immersive Patrols SE"
"0012","Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement"
"0013","Better Dialogue Controls"
"0014","Address Library for SKSE Plugins"
"0015","Better Jumping SE"
"0016","Ultimate Combat SE"
"0017","Combat Gameplay Overhaul SE"
"0018","Even Better Quest Objectives SE"
"0019","Archery Gameplay Overhaul SE"
"0020","Wet and Cold SE"
"0021","SkyUI SE - Flashing Savegames Fix"
"0022","Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim"
"0023","Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim"
"0024","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE"
"0025","RaceMenu"
"0026","JContainers SE"
"0027","Open Cities Skyrim"
"0028","Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul"
"0029","PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions"
"0030","Achievements Mods Enabler"
"0031","Run For Your Lives"
"0032","Amazing Follower Tweaks SE"
"0033","Unread Books Glow SSE"
"0034","Rich Skyrim Merchants"
"0035","Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers"
"0036","Imperious - Races of Skyrim"
"0037","MorrowLoot Ultimate"
"0038","Skyrim Better Roads"
"0039","Fort Takeovers Framework"
"0040","SRC - Exclude from Radiant System Options"
"0041","CIVIL WAR OVERHAUL - Redux"
"0042","Skyrim Realistic Conquering - All In One"
"0043","JK's Skyrim - Open Cities Patch"
"0044","Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim compatibility"
"0045","Bug Fixes SSE"
"0046","MorrowLoot Ultimate ars patch"
"0047","Fort Takeovers Framework core"
"0048","Quick Loot RE"
"0049","CC Saints and Seducers - Less Obnoxious Elytra Footsteps"
"0050","Convenient Horses"
"0051","Convenient Carriages for Immersive Citizens"
"0052","Ordinator - more perks"
"0053","Zim's Immersive Artifacts"
"0054","ABT AE - Arrows and Bolts Tweaks Anniversary Edition"
"0055","Project New Reign - Nemesis Unlimited Behavior Engine"
"0056","Fenis"
"0057","Fenis logs"
"0058","powerofthree's Tweaks"
"0059","English_Strings_for_Skyrim_SE_v1523.7z"
"0060","MorrowLoot Ultimate ars zen patch"
"0061","Unofficial Skyrim Creation Club Content Patch"
"0062","SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)"
and here's the mods

[Sonne]

after a little bit of digging i found the source of the problem but didn't find a solution to it yet, the problem lies in update.esm where when using sseedit on it it shows that some of the ids in the file contain error unknown string id rather than the name of the item, did anyone have this problem before and if there is any way to solve it ?

i tried deleting it and verifying again to reinstall but it didn't work

p.s i know i could downgrade to 1.5.x but most of my mods are up to date and it would be a hassle trying to find old versions of them

[76561198140601386]

Do you have a "Data\Skyrim - Patch.bsa" file by any chance? this file is no longer needed in the latest versions.
Some users who previously had Skyrim 1.5.97 installed, Steam may have failed to delete it.

[smr1957]

You need to do a clean reinstall. Just validating the files or uninstalling and reinstalling the game is not enough - files can get left over and they will continue to effect your game. Follow this guide EXACTLY and do everything it says to the letter:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2743619856

Once that is done (and DO NOT clean or edit the Master files or any Creation Club content), check on a pure vanilla game. Then add mods in gradually and test. Use this as a general outline of how to go about it:

Troubleshooting Your Load Order
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/3109142236155416522/

The above links are from the following section of the PINNED TOPIC Helpful Links and References:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2882871440

As to downgrading, absolutely do not do so - it can cause issues in the game up to and including CTDs. At this point, anyone just starting the game with a new build should be on the current version (1.6.640) - and no one who bought or installed the game after the update to 1.6+ (now over a year and a half ago - as the update was in November '21), should be playing anything other than the current version. The older version is unsupported and anyone still on it is completely on their own as far as troubleshooting or help.


Good luck - doing the clean re-install as described above should fix any lingering issues in the vanilla game - then it will be a matter of testing the mods as you add them. Hope it all goes well - keep us informed!

[xybolt]

引用自 MBS：

after a little bit of digging i found the source of the problem but didn't find a solution to it yet, the problem lies in update.esm where when using sseedit on it it shows that some of the ids in the file contain error unknown string id rather than the name of the item, did anyone have this problem before and if there is any way to solve it ?

i tried deleting it and verifying again to reinstall but it didn't work

Are you sure that it's the update.esm that is causing this? I have to admit that I am somewhat confused by your conclusion.

I believe your problem is due of localisation. Are you playing a localised (= translated, not in US English) version of the game? Or did you have switched it at a given moment?
Look for "Strings" folder in your "Data" folder. If there is one, move it to a different location (eg desktop) and see if that helps. Similar approach may be required to replace your .bsa archives because it contains such files as well.

引用自 MBS：

p.s i know i could downgrade to 1.5.x but most of my mods are up to date and it would be a hassle trying to find old versions of them

You don't have to unless you have mods that works on that version. The only reason (IMHO) for having that version is the grass cache tool, to generate cgid files. All important mods are up to date to the current version, even DAR, of which was the latest major mod that was not being supported.

[Sonne]

引用自 xybolt：

引用自 MBS：

after a little bit of digging i found the source of the problem but didn't find a solution to it yet, the problem lies in update.esm where when using sseedit on it it shows that some of the ids in the file contain error unknown string id rather than the name of the item, did anyone have this problem before and if there is any way to solve it ?

i tried deleting it and verifying again to reinstall but it didn't work

Are you sure that it's the update.esm that is causing this? I have to admit that I am somewhat confused by your conclusion.

I believe your problem is due of localisation. Are you playing a localised (= translated, not in US English) version of the game? Or did you have switched it at a given moment?
Look for "Strings" folder in your "Data" folder. If there is one, move it to a different location (eg desktop) and see if that helps. Similar approach may be required to replace your .bsa archives because it contains such files as well.

引用自 MBS：

p.s i know i could downgrade to 1.5.x but most of my mods are up to date and it would be a hassle trying to find old versions of them

You don't have to unless you have mods that works on that version. The only reason (IMHO) for having that version is the grass cache tool, to generate cgid files. All important mods are up to date to the current version, even DAR, of which was the latest major mod that was not being supported.

i am certain it is and no i am using the original en without any localization, i was able to find a dump but temporary solution. i opened the original skyrim.esm and update.esm and started resolving conflict , i kept all of the update changes i just replaced all the error unknown error with the original skyrim.esm name and this did resolve most of the missing items although there is some lines that have the error without a match in skyrim.esm , i also tried to do a clean reinstall prior to this based around the comment above but it didn't solve it , i really don't know why it happened all of the sudden i used to play the game all the time before the anniversary edition and i have never encountered such a bug.