Is Survival Mode even needed?

[Forge Master]

Survival Mode vs Frostfall and Ineed. Thoughts?

[UsernameTaken666]

no

[Forge Master]

I'm surprised when they did the Anniversary Update.. they just didn't do a Frostfall and Ineed combination. Really changes, enhances and immerses how the game is played.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Sunhelm and be done with it I mean with Sunhelm survival mode doesn't even pop up sunhelm prevents it ... sunhelm is basically Ineed and Frosfall in one combine it with campfires if you will.

That said I tried Survival mode and my biggest problem is that Survival isn't configurable out of the box you'll still need mods to let it function ok so why don't use better mods altogether?

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Sunhelm and be done with it I mean with Sunhelm survival mode doesn't even pop up sunhelm prevents it ... sunhelm is basically Ineed and Frosfall in one combine it with campfires if you will.

That said I tried Survival mode and my biggest problem is that Survival isn't configurable out of the box you'll still need mods to let it function ok so why don't use better mods altogether?

That about says it all. I run Sunhelm together with Campfire, great combo.

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Sunhelm and be done with it I mean with Sunhelm survival mode doesn't even pop up sunhelm prevents it ... sunhelm is basically Ineed and Frosfall in one combine it with campfires if you will.

That said I tried Survival mode and my biggest problem is that Survival isn't configurable out of the box you'll still need mods to let it function ok so why don't use better mods altogether?

Oooh! Thank you for the suggestion. What about the Wet and Cold mod?

[SpeedFreak1972]

You can just use it I mean I run them altogether

[Ihateeverybody]

I usuall Use Frostfall/Last Seed/Campfire but I am a relic from another time and place (Still on 1.5.97 or whatever )

Is SunHelm Really Better? I think I took an initial Look (Never actually Tested) and nothing popped out for me.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Well Sunhelm and last seed are comparable I tried both and I found Sunhelm better (probably personal preference)

[Ilja]

I originally went with Frostfall, but even with fixes, it just had too many issues on SE side. It works, but takes and gives more hits than it should.

Only thing that is really missing from Sunhelm is wetness meter. It does not calculate that. However, it calculates the misery of cold water and rainy weather accurately enough that you do not end up missing it.

I would strongly recommend using Survival Control Panel with Sunhelm. Neither Survival or Sunhelm detects cloaks out of the box. Control panel fixes that and allows you to tweak settings more to your liking. SCP is especially useful for Cloaks of Skyrim and Winter is Coming users, but you might want to tweak some item values anyway.

Survival Control Panel
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/41891

[CaptainR3x]

What I don't like about the survival mod is the lack of customization, I like some feature but not the other, that's why I'm staying with mod, which is a shame because bethesda implementation is probably better and more performance friendly

[Ilja]

Survival mode was not made by BGS. We do not actually know which mod author made it; it is one of the rare creations where author is up for best guesses. We know most CC authors though.

Sunhelm is based on Survival mod. If you want customization, then that is indeed the best option.