Why do so many mods require SkyUI?

[emitfudd]

I tried this interface once and didn't like it. It is extremely annoying that so many mods require it. What does it do that the normal interface can't?

[Altbert]

There's always SkyUI Away!

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Altbert:

There's always SkyUI Away!

Thank you!! It looks like hidesky is the updated mod for SE. I looked at skyui away and it said I downloaded it in 2016. I didn't even remember. Now I can use mods that require it without the interface I can't deal with.

[emitfudd]

So I installed SkyUI and then hide skyUI. When I go to the save option I can't save and the screen keeps flickering to the beat of the noise when you save. Same thing with the load option. Quicksave works normally. Any idea why? This makes these mods unusable and I will have to delete them.

Edit: I went back into the game to observe this again. I am able to save. When I move my joystick to the right while in the save tab it defaults to the last save instead of the new save option. If I press A it goes to new save directly. The drum noise happens exactly 16 times and then stops. Only the list of saves flickers, not the entire screen. This is a weird bug. Filed a bug report on the mod page.

[Ihateeverybody]

I am assuming you are using a Mod Manager (and you should) so I am HESTIANT to advise.

I know of what you speak (I never connected it as a problem specific to Skyui and SKYUIAway (I use it also). It very may well be. I get it every once in a great while as well.

Double check SKYUI is enabled

Goto AppData\Local\Skyrim Special Edition and open plugins.txt (any text editor will do). Ensure your SkyUI is enabled by placing an * to its left as shown below.

*iWant Widgets.esl
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*Cutting Room Floor.esp

Your Mod List will be different. Just showing that spot for context. If wordwrap is enabled it will look different.

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

I am assuming you are using a Mod Manager (and you should) so I am HESTIANT to advise.

I know of what you speak (I never connected it as a problem specific to Skyui and SKYUIAway (I use it also). It very may well be. I get it every once in a great while as well.

Double check SKYUI is enabled

Goto AppData\Local\Skyrim Special Edition and open plugins.txt (any text editor will do). Ensure your SkyUI is enabled by placing an * to its left as shown below.

*iWant Widgets.esl
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*Cutting Room Floor.esp

Your Mod List will be different. Just showing that spot for context. If wordwrap is enabled it will look different.

I checked and it is enabled. It was second in the list right under the unofficial patch. This just started happening when I installed these 2 mods today so it must be one of them. I use Vortex which has LOOT built in.

[76561198140601386]

Answering the question: MCM.
Initially, SkyUI was just an interface mod, but eventually they managed to create this framework, an extra menu that could easily be used by other authors to add their own options for players to configure in-game.
Most PC users played Skyrim on keyboard&mouse, SkyUI implemented hundreds of QoL tweaks to K&M + MCM - everything was a classic win-win situation.

As already mentioned, there is mod called "SkyUi away" - which will allow you to use the MCM + vanilla interface.

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by emitfudd:

Only the list of saves flickers, not the entire screen.

Did you get the "flashing saved games fix" for SkyUI?

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Liquid Inc:

Originally posted by emitfudd:

Only the list of saves flickers, not the entire screen.

Did you get the "flashing saved games fix" for SkyUI?

Thank god there is a fix. You would think they would link that mod to the original. Thank you!!!

[grab these bandages]

Originally posted by emitfudd:

I tried this interface once and didn't like it. It is extremely annoying that so many mods require it. What does it do that the normal interface can't?

functionality for mod configuration in game.

[KilledJoy]

Originally posted by emitfudd:

I tried this interface once and didn't like it. It is extremely annoying that so many mods require it. What does it do that the normal interface can't?

It is incredibly annoying i used to try to avoid it as well... now im just used to it and the vanilla menu looks weird.

[felmari]

definitely better than spells and books polluting those areas. imagine having 10+ mods each with their own settings.

[KilledJoy]

Originally posted by felmari:

definitely better than spells and books polluting those areas. imagine having 10+ mods each with their own settings.

Imagine? Isnt that normal for the now average skyrim player

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by felmari:

definitely better than spells and books polluting those areas. imagine having 10+ mods each with their own settings.

That actually takes up a good 3 - 5 minutes of my game prep. After I configure, I have to go through and remove spells for configuration features. Player.removespell. xxxxxxxxx ; Can't automate with a bat file because load order changes play to play. I have the search keywords memorized at this point.