is the enb worth it?

[⁂☮Abra☮⁂]

i am installing alot of mods include for better graphics, and now game aleardy looking stunning, is the enb worth use at this point?

[Vlad 254]

Yes it is but at a cost. ENB's can eat some FPS depending on your rig. With my RTX 2070/i7-8700 running ENB cost me about 10 FPS give or take also depending on my mod list. With my RTX 3090/19-12900 I experience zero fps loss with similar if not larger mod lists.

But the visual difference has always been worth it for me. And of course there are other alternatives to ENB.

[mikk011]

To add to what Vlad says, some ENBs cause less of a performance loss than others. With certain limits, you can install and uninstall ENBs during play and assess the appeal and the performance hit on your own setup.

One of the simplest alternatives that Vlad suggests is Imaginator https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4577 which can be installed like any ordinary mod and has very little performance cost.

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by mikk011:

To add to what Vlad says, some ENBs cause less of a performance loss than others. With certain limits, you can install and uninstall ENBs during play and assess the appeal and the performance hit on your own setup.

One of the simplest alternatives that Vlad suggests is Imaginator https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4577 which can be installed like any ordinary mod and has very little performance cost.

Hah no. Imaginator is mad bad. It was only really good option when there was no reshade or nvidia shaders. Either of those is better than imaginator. I think NAT weather standalones designed for vanilla have imaginator style features as well as more advanced ones.

(I might be wrong on NAT last i tested NAT was on Fallout 4 not Skyrim SE either way its a reasonable weather if you cant or wont use enb.) Believe that would be different from NAT for some enbs.

This is no insult to imaginator dev its obviously not designed to compete with reshade or enb but if you are trying to run SE rather than oldrim reshade should be no issue especially if you make your own preset. (also given that devs mod history im guessing they could do something more advanced if they were interested or had time.)

Last thing community shaders are heavily in development and are sort of a option already but not equal to enb or reshade. (I think reshade can work with it though)

Also more specifically on topic of OP yeah its totally worth it you can get insane improvements in rain. Also can get volumetric rays from moon/planet etc.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/91675
One i currently use.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2986377706
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2986377689

Its up to you, your gpu and framerate you want. I run 60 fps and only lag from my physics hair and armor type mods not due to graphics.

I used to find no enb disgusting but if you use correct mod set you can replicate the overall look.

[Nabinkemper]

I ran without ENB for years due to not having the rig to push past the performance hit. The mod's I use still made the game look and feel great. As said, there are great non-ENB options out there.

I upgraded graphics about a year ago to a Radeon 6950 XT and installed several ENB's until finally settling on NAT due to having lighting and weather together. Seeing snow on the ground in Riften was a shock. The way the lighting illuminates the plant life, including moon light, makes for some amazing views. Sunrise or sunset is always stunning as well.

[Vlad 254]

The only way to know for sure is to try it because of course your mileage may very as related to both fps and graphics improvement depending on your rig, your mods, your monitor and your monitor settings, with the last 2 having to do with graphics. And of course different ENB's bring different results as well. Remember, first you install the binaries (and ENB Helper if applicable), after that you're installing pre-sets which btw can be switched out at any time. Presets are a matter of personal preference so again, the best way is to try them and see which best suits your taste.

[mikk011]

This. ^^

And my experience with imaginator was quite positive at a time when my then-system couldn't handle an ENB or Reshade.

[SpeedFreak1972]

I ran an Enb recently I uninstalled it my current pc has fps issues when it was active. That said it also depends on the ENB some ENB's come with 3 presets the low settings is a bit like a reshade with no fps loss the middle one is a the middle ground with fps on my system a 15-20 fps in general and the full one is the full ENB with all settings turned on.

My pc for reference I7 4790, GTX 1080 SC and 16 GB ram

Also keep in mind that night vision or predator vision it won't work .... Yes there's a work-around, but the game looks worse for it. when needed I disabled the ENB

[Doom Sayer]

True preset does matter but most enb are reasonably performance friendly. Certainly rare for top rated ones to have fps issues. At least on 3070ti. I only really dont use crazy advanced features partially because they arent supported on downgrade but i probably wouldnt use them anyway due to performance. Only effect i really wish i had was complex grass but eats too much fps. Theoretically it should be gpu but i dont know 100% for sure.

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by mikk011:

This. ^^

And my experience with imaginator was quite positive at a time when my then-system couldn't handle an ENB or Reshade.

Yeah I just have trouble imagining much hardware that would have a issue. Like Cathedral, Rustic, NAT or Vivid weathers have good color correction (in terms of appearance not literally color correction i have no idea how weather mods are dev'd). Like if i struggled with reshade i wouldnt even bother with SE. Unless somehow performance was better even on such low end hardware. Then again idk how many people edit their own game presets like i do.

[ĿIFE oƒ ƤIE]

If you think the lighting and shadows need to look better then yes.

Otherwise... no, just put some game settings on high instead.

[Vlad 254]

Not everyone can run an ENB. I tested Imaginator to included in an earlier guide I made a few years ago so I could list it as an option. Imaginator was fine, no issues.

As far as tweaking an ENB it's actually less work than tweaking Imaginator actually the GUI makes it quite simple.

@OP, you say your game looks stunning so if you are happy with it that's all that counts. But if you want to try out an ENB you can always uninstall it without issues unlike many other mods. Hopefully we gave you enough info to go on. Everything else is pretty much personal opinion.

[⁂☮Abra☮⁂]

thanks for answers, my monitor is run 1080, so probably my gtx graphic can also handle the enb, from other side i alerady installed many graphic mods with otpion without enb so i think i will have first reinstall them and re-option. i still have reconsider this, becuse now, without enb and some weather/lighting mod it give me very natural look, i have played both versions and my first play on skyrim se was without mods, and even that was big change with visuals between normal skyrim for me ;P

[Vuyek]

try Cathedral Weathers and Seasons
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24791

it has in-game menu for changing bloom, sharpness, vividness, naturalness (just try it), and many other graphical tweaks. Basically you make your own ENB.


for ease of use, pair it with

Cathedral Weathers MCM
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24940


best of both worlds - change the hues, bloom, sharpness, whatever.
save the settings (or don't) and play.

want to change it mid-game?
goto the menu, and change everything. make it summery. make it wintery.

go nuts.


ps
best of all, low fps hit. VERY low. like ZERO.

[alamoscouts]

they look much worse compared to Oldrim ENBs.

[alamoscouts]

Originally posted by Doom Sayer:

Originally posted by mikk011:

To add to what Vlad says, some ENBs cause less of a performance loss than others. With certain limits, you can install and uninstall ENBs during play and assess the appeal and the performance hit on your own setup.

One of the simplest alternatives that Vlad suggests is Imaginator https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4577 which can be installed like any ordinary mod and has very little performance cost.

Hah no. Imaginator is mad bad. It was only really good option when there was no reshade or nvidia shaders. Either of those is better than imaginator. I think NAT weather standalones designed for vanilla have imaginator style features as well as more advanced ones.

(I might be wrong on NAT last i tested NAT was on Fallout 4 not Skyrim SE either way its a reasonable weather if you cant or wont use enb.) Believe that would be different from NAT for some enbs.

This is no insult to imaginator dev its obviously not designed to compete with reshade or enb but if you are trying to run SE rather than oldrim reshade should be no issue especially if you make your own preset. (also given that devs mod history im guessing they could do something more advanced if they were interested or had time.)

Last thing community shaders are heavily in development and are sort of a option already but not equal to enb or reshade. (I think reshade can work with it though)

Also more specifically on topic of OP yeah its totally worth it you can get insane improvements in rain. Also can get volumetric rays from moon/planet etc.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/91675
One i currently use.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2986377706
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2986377689

Its up to you, your gpu and framerate you want. I run 60 fps and only lag from my physics hair and armor type mods not due to graphics.

I used to find no enb disgusting but if you use correct mod set you can replicate the overall look.

That just looks like making the screen as unrealistically dark as possible; the typical overshadowing; like the reverse of the other extreme; over blooming from the 00s.