The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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pjedilord Mar 19, 2023 @ 4:03pm
Skyrim Why Argonians Crime Sharks?
If we think about the Argonians they tend to be crime sharks or devious.
Like the seller at the pub who works as front for guild, or Argonian sets DB
on the lighthouse quest. Khajiit tend to be iffy to? they don't have respect from
the people to why?I have never played Argonian,Khajiit Elf how new did it make the
game playing them as Dragon Born? Why are elfs so posh like they are so special?
Why are Altmer the best in magic? Why do Argonians sound devious?
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Von Faustien Mar 19, 2023 @ 7:03pm 
Argonains are none sapient bio robots made by magic trees and are farm equipment closely related to a Hoe see the lusty argonian maid.

that cant carry out a crime because they are sapient the issue in skyrim is the Hist arent there and the dunmer got roasted by red mountian meaning no ones around to properly repair and tend to the damaged tools leading to malfunctions. thats why its best if you see an argonain to bring them back to black marsh or send them to a dress salt rice plantation so they can fulfill there proper purpose of tending plants
Originally posted by pjedilord:
Like the seller at the pub who works as front for guild
That's... Not what Protection Money is.

They are basically robbing her Inn's profits on a regular basis under "The Implication" that they will kill her, her boyfriend, and/or her family in Blackmarsh if she doesn't cough up the septims.
Originally posted by pjedilord:
Why are elfs so posh like they are so special?
Literally this
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zmZWJ6K63iM

Originally posted by pjedilord:
Why are Altmer the best in magic?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zmZWJ6K63iM

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Altmer are EVERYTHING hate-able about Knife-Ears in other bits of Media. Except their portrayal is in service of making you hate them. Instead of expecting you to unironically love and waifu knife-ears because they are special snowflakes.
Last edited by Smugass Braixen-Chan; Mar 19, 2023 @ 9:32pm
ralphtobybob Mar 20, 2023 @ 1:09pm 
So in your mind a single Argonian working for the Thieves Guild made up of Nords and other non-Argonian species means Argonians are thieves by nature and Nords aren't?
It isn't Argonians protecting the Thieves Guild in Riften is it?
Junipercat Mar 20, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
Argonian assassins and Khajiit thieves (or the reverse) are a big stereotype in The Elder Scrolls universe. Their skills and how they are treated by other races means many of them do follow those paths, but not always.

Elves because of various factors, including longer lives than other races, are stereotyped to be snobbish to other races. And that is not exclusive to this universe, but a trope in various games and media.
FauxFurry Mar 20, 2023 @ 5:06pm 
Argonians are not crime sharks. These are crime sharks.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22655
pjedilord Mar 20, 2023 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by ralphtobybob:
So in your mind a single Argonian working for the Thieves Guild made up of Nords and other non-Argonian species means Argonians are thieves by nature and Nords aren't?
It isn't Argonians protecting the Thieves Guild in Riften is it?


Originally posted by Junipercat:
Argonian assassins and Khajiit thieves (or the reverse) are a big stereotype in The Elder Scrolls universe. Their skills and how they are treated by other races means many of them do follow those paths, but not always.

Elves because of various factors, including longer lives than other races, are stereotyped to be snobbish to other races. And that is not exclusive to this universe, but a trope in various games and media.


Nords are more respected than Argonians Khajiit.
So was Argonians Khajiit crime sharks in prequels?elf was always posh to?
FauxFurry Mar 20, 2023 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by pjedilord:
Originally posted by ralphtobybob:
So in your mind a single Argonian working for the Thieves Guild made up of Nords and other non-Argonian species means Argonians are thieves by nature and Nords aren't?
It isn't Argonians protecting the Thieves Guild in Riften is it?


Originally posted by Junipercat:
Argonian assassins and Khajiit thieves (or the reverse) are a big stereotype in The Elder Scrolls universe. Their skills and how they are treated by other races means many of them do follow those paths, but not always.

Elves because of various factors, including longer lives than other races, are stereotyped to be snobbish to other races. And that is not exclusive to this universe, but a trope in various games and media.


Nords are more respected than Argonians Khajiit.
So was Argonians Khajiit crime sharks in prequels?elf was always posh to?
Argonians and Khajiit were thralls/bond servants in the Elder Scrolls 3 so no. They were too busy being forced into a life of servitude by the Dunmer to engage in lives of crime.
theo Mar 21, 2023 @ 12:18am 
Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:
Originally posted by pjedilord:
Why are elfs so posh like they are so special?
Literally this
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zmZWJ6K63iM

Originally posted by pjedilord:
Why are Altmer the best in magic?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zmZWJ6K63iM

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Altmer are EVERYTHING hate-able about Knife-Ears in other bits of Media. Except their portrayal is in service of making you hate them. Instead of expecting you to unironically love and waifu knife-ears because they are special snowflakes.
Sounds like some kind of resentment.
Junipercat Mar 21, 2023 @ 2:12am 
Perhaps play the prior games, or read up on the lore, and then a lot of this will make sense to you. With the many threads you have made asking in-depth questions of the game, it seems you want to understand the entire world before you've experienced it yourself.

Go enjoy the game and see what you get out of it and go from there. There is hardly a replacement for experience.

Though for the way Elves are, that is a trope across many games, books, movies, etc. Since you ask about why they look down upon other races and treat them like they do, is Skyrim your first introduction to the Elven concept? Just curious as this is something widely known, but I understand not by everyone. Side note, I do wish there were more options where Elves broke this mold. I would love it if the next game had some Elves (perhaps a faction?) trying to grow beyond the genocidal/Nazi-like their brethren have been for generations.
I don't really get the "Argonians are all slaves" thing.

Wouldn't the huge majority of Argonians just be vibing in Blackmarsh?

Same with Khajiit (In fact, there's a tid-bit of lore about how you rarely see quadrupedal Khajiit outside of Elsweyr because they aren't fond of the other races. And not because it would be too much effort to program and animate a playable quadrupedal race)
theo Mar 21, 2023 @ 3:23am 
Originally posted by Junipercat:
I would love it if the next game had some Elves (perhaps a faction?) trying to grow beyond the genocidal/Nazi-like their brethren have been for generations.
We've already got psijics
theo Mar 21, 2023 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by peppermint hollows:
Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:
I don't really get the "Argonians are all slaves" thing.

Wouldn't the huge majority of Argonians just be vibing in Blackmarsh?

Same with Khajiit (In fact, there's a tid-bit of lore about how you rarely see quadrupedal Khajiit outside of Elsweyr because they aren't fond of the other races. And not because it would be too much effort to program and animate a playable quadrupedal race)

Because they were both literally slave races in the third game. There were a few non-Argonian, non-Khajiit slaves but most were one of the two aforementioned races.
There weren't "slave races" in Morrowind, there was slavery, as a local custom allowed by the Empire.
Most slaves were argonians and furries because of geographical and historical reasons, but slaves could be of any race, as well as there were free argonian/khajiit citizens.
And there was no slavery in the rest of the Empire.
Last edited by theo; Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:13am
Junipercat Mar 21, 2023 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by theo:
Originally posted by Junipercat:
I would love it if the next game had some Elves (perhaps a faction?) trying to grow beyond the genocidal/Nazi-like their brethren have been for generations.
We've already got psijics

Wow, it has been way too long since I went through that quest line. That right there I want them to expand upon in the next game. Perhaps starting with a local sub-faction that follows their teachings and breaks away from the status quo of the Dominion. Perhaps the Dominion could have their own internal struggle as there are those that wish to work with the other races instead of command them, though perhaps viewing it as they need to teach the "child races".
ralphtobybob Mar 21, 2023 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by pjedilord:
Originally posted by ralphtobybob:
So in your mind a single Argonian working for the Thieves Guild made up of Nords and other non-Argonian species means Argonians are thieves by nature and Nords aren't?
It isn't Argonians protecting the Thieves Guild in Riften is it?


Originally posted by Junipercat:
Argonian assassins and Khajiit thieves (or the reverse) are a big stereotype in The Elder Scrolls universe. Their skills and how they are treated by other races means many of them do follow those paths, but not always.

Elves because of various factors, including longer lives than other races, are stereotyped to be snobbish to other races. And that is not exclusive to this universe, but a trope in various games and media.


Nords are more respected than Argonians Khajiit.
So was Argonians Khajiit crime sharks in prequels?elf was always posh to?

imperials don't seem to accept Nords as equals.

General Tullius: "You people and your damn Jarls." "You Nords and your bloody sense of honor."

Proventus Avenicci: "Hrongar, calm yourself. What does any of this Nord nonsense have to do with our friend here?
Proventus even insults Skyrim's Jarls
Balgruuf: "This again?! That was different. Was I given a chance to object to the terms of the treaty? No. The Jarls weren't asked. We were told. And we had to like it."
Proventus: "The chests of gold didn't hurt."
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