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Wow, you are really really funny. I mean totally funny. You should do standup in the middle of a busy road in a thick fog. "Now thats comedy" as Slappy Squirrel would say
LOL
So, maybe said NPC is part of multiple factions?
1 of which you annoyed, and the other being the hold they're in. When you kill them, you anger both factions getting the guards to attack you, and as they're in the hold faction, the guards won't attack the NPC because the NPC is part of it.
The player, as you know, isn't aligned to the hold factions themselves, so the guards have no reason to step in?
I stand by the belief that if someone is attacking me that I have the right to preserve my existance. There is no way this guy stops attacking me. Just going to disable him.
What place has lava? Going to stick him in some lava.
Its exasperated by Crime Overhaul mod because I can't use the smack a guard and pay a 20 gold fine to fix it.
I basically had to smack the NPC and his friends around until they ran then use leave combat mod (Because their Dull red in another cell dots were causing me to have migranes then save, exit and restart the game. I found them outside the road house telling lies about how it all went down and all is forgiven...until they find the dead reguard I left for them upstairs.
Don't be starting something you can't finish Bietch. I didn't have to kill anyone, but I shouldn't have had to at all.
Another option is to console command "kill" them if they are not protected.
As for you original question, I browsed through 30k nexus mods this past week+. (Seriously). I saw a few crime overhauls but nothing that removed it entirely, sorry. Possible i just didn't notice but...well i didn't see anything.
"yeah those guys were breaking the law but....we didn't care until you did"
one of my triggers.
Crime Overhaul does what it says, it just doesn't work for resolving that glitch, it ignores crimes under 2k gold if they don't see it.
The glitch I mean is certain NPCs with the NO CRIME setting allowed to act as if they were the offended party. Even if they were NO WHERE in the area.
And its not even all of them. Its just certain ones at certain times. I had Uthgerd glitch out on me just an hour ago.
The problem is, the Game engine is reporting me as having a bounty even though I don't . Its likely reading the lifetime bounty variable on game load then telling whatever No Crime NPC is in the cell on Cell load an they go "HEY LAWBREAKER"
So smacking a guard and paying the 20 gold would reset my state to no bounty, clearing the variable from being active. Crime overhaul doesn't allow you to do that. It registers the Smacking of the Guard as an accidental Hit and "Forgives it".
But yeah, I am thinking it has to go the next time I start a game. It just doesn't really factor into my playstyle. The only time I get a bounty is when I don't allow an attacker to hit me first when he is assisting an attacker who has hit me. Imperials and Thalmor mostly .
My opinion is if they aggro on me. I shouldn't get a bounty since they are the instigators. Once they decide to attack me. They are at fault.
Because if it's causing the bug, then it needs to go, if it's not, then you need to find which mod is causing the bug, because it sounds incredibly annoying...
I ask, because I have never used Crime Overhaul, I tend to divide my characters into those who only break the law when they need to, and those who only obey the law when they need to, and adjust accordingly...
But my point was directed at whatever is causing people to harrass you when you haven't committed a crime.
Vigilants, THE Companions, Uthgerd, Tsalagar (Wandering Bard) and likely a few others have this behaviour ALWAYS. The glitch occurs (and this is speculation) when the cell or an NPC is loaded and there is some sort of Sytem Lag. SOmetimes somebody isn't dressed, something falls through the floor or someone thinks you have a bounty because at some point in the past you did and it did not do it right.
Markarth Bounties are a literal PITA to clear so I have a bat file ready to go when they screw up.
So with this VANILLA Glitch a common way to fix it is to smack a guard and GET a 20 Gold Bounty. Then you pay the bounty and it usually will CLEAR your bounty state so that the Glitch is unlikely to happen.
Crime Overhaul has a feature with Accident Forgiveness where the cops won't get mad if you hit them or anyone as long as you immediatly sheathe your weapon. Now if you kill someone they will come after you. So since I can't do that to clear up the bounty confusion. The Bounty state will remain.
So I had the issue in my first post. I thought I had it fixed. Later I was in a dungeon with Uthgerd and she spazzed out with the Glitch. I have Nethers Follower Framework and I eventually found the Follower Calm spell which I used to reset her state. I likely would still have that state until I actually paid a bounty and the state got cleared up, maybe it would get fixed the next Thalmor/Imperial I killed with the Last witness, I don't know.
The main problem is a Vanilla Game issue. Most of all because the Bounty situation is not readily accessible. You have a generic Entry in the Crime Section of your "Game Stats" that tells you nothing about what it is about and it will only show if you are in the Hold itself.
I feel like I am spending too much time explaining why it pisses me off. Honestly I just want to get past it.