The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Numa Thurman Aug 16, 2023 @ 9:15am
NPC's no body, only head/feet/hands
Okay, I'm starting a new game, I installed a bunched of mods. I used Vortex and I launched the game with SKSE64. When I took my first enemies armour, their bodies briefly appeared before disappearing. Only the head, the hands, the feet and the vanilla underwears are there. I unabled all my armor mods and tried again: same results. I unabled CBBE: same results. I tried reinstall XP32 Maximum Skeleton, same results.

Both male and female bodies are having this problem. For now, it's the only mod having a problem, apart from a SoS.dll not being found.

So, I guess it's about my load order ? The thing is, I tried to use MO2, but it doesn't load some of my mods (it says Mod Organizer is not setup to handle nxm links), so I can't find a better load order with MO2.

Do you have any leads that could help me, please ? I'll keep digging on the internet, but after looking here and there for a solution, I'm not finding it.

Is my last solution to load one mod after the other until I see what's creating the problem ?
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Corinze Aug 16, 2023 @ 5:06pm 
Just want to note your mod list is not showing. Only this message and it's been a few hours.

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List you skin mod please. Altbert is correct armors will cause this issue too. Are you naked only in armor or naked as in naked no armor on?
Eternie Aug 16, 2023 @ 6:24pm 
Corinze if you go to quote his awaiting analysis comment you can see his mod list.

I will add that for me anytime I'm about to add a mod I make a named save with the console. So that I can return to a save before I added that mod.

Named saved are also way better to help remember where you were and can be easily identified. To use console to save any name of that mod obviously
Open console ~
save AddingBlackMageArmorMod enter
close console ~
or it could be using brackets though all of that may not show
Save "adding Black mage armor mod"

So any mod you deleted and kept playing and that possibly isn't in your listed mods may have caused your invisible body
Numa Thurman Aug 17, 2023 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by Eternie:
If you delete a mod or disable it.
Then you need to load a save before you added that mod or start a new game.
Most mods will be written into saves and still be in game unless you restart or load a save before they were added.

okay, I'll launch a new game to see if the bug is still there or not.

Originally posted by Eternie:
Your missing armor could simply be a mod you removed and kept playing on that current save.

Originally posted by Altbert:
Another possibility and very plausible! I have seen this a couple of times. An armor outfit replacees the skin it's covering. If the armor doesn't exist anymore, the underlying skin becomes invisible, because the game tries to add non-existing armor parts to those particular body slots.

I did not remove any mods, that's the thing. I don't miss any armor. The bug is there from first game with this load order.

Originally posted by Corinze:
Just want to note your mod list is not showing. Only this message and it's been a few hours.

[i[This comment is awaiting analysis by our automated content check system. It will be temporarily hidden until we verify that it does not contain harmful content (e.g. links to websites that attempt to steal information).[/i]

List you skin mod please. Altbert is correct armors will cause this issue too. Are you naked only in armor or naked as in naked no armor on?

I know it put this message, I've been checking this conversation from another page where I'm not connected to see if the message was checked. You should be able to see it now, I'll quote it in my next message so you don't have to go back to the first page.

Now, my bug concerns dead NPCs i've killed, not me. I have my armor, it's working. NPCs have their armors. The dead bodies (like the first one we see in Helgen Dungeon when we enter) have their armors and when I take it, they don't disappear.

However, the NPCs I killed (like the two Imperials you face if you choose to enter Helgen Dungeon with Ralof) have their armors but when I take it, I briefly see their bodies (with their vanilla underwear) before it disappears. Then, I only see their head, hands, feets and underwears.

That's what I've been trying to explain on the main message.

Originally posted by Eternie:
Corinze if you go to quote his awaiting analysis comment you can see his mod list.

I will add that for me anytime I'm about to add a mod I make a named save with the console. So that I can return to a save before I added that mod.

Named saved are also way better to help remember where you were and can be easily identified. To use console to save any name of that mod obviously
Open console ~
save AddingBlackMageArmorMod enter
close console ~
or it could be using brackets though all of that may not show
Save "adding Black mage armor mod"

So any mod you deleted and kept playing and that possibly isn't in your listed mods may have caused your invisible body

Okay, I keep that in mind. Thank you.

But again I did not delete any armor. For now, I used LOOT, it changed the load order and I upgraded/corrected everything LOOT alerted me about.

I'll start a new game and see if it's going alright or not. Thank you all for your help and your time.
Eternie Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:11am 
Glad to help let us know if the game has improved.
Numa Thurman Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by Numa Thurman:
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2. Update.esm
3. Dawnguard.esm
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33. JKs Skyrim.esp
34. Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
35. Immersive Jewelry.esp
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37. Sanctuary Reborn.esp
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231. RealisticWaterTwo.esp
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234. RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
235. Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

Here is my load order.
Numa Thurman Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:15am 
The bug is still here. This time, one of the two imperials killed (the female one) had its body (except head/hands/feet) disappear before I took its armor. The body of the second one (the male one) disappeared after I took its armor.

So I guess it has to do with CBBE/HIMBO ?
Corinze Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:29am 
I'm seeing the list now, even the original and nothing is standing out as being off but racemenu patches caught my eye. Eternie offered great advise. You might have to disable body/hair mods one by one to trouble this or disable them all, see if it corrected them add them back in one at a time.
As for CBBE and Himbo, bodyslide sould be run for a batch build just to be sure.
Numa Thurman Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by Corinze:
I'm seeing the list now, even the original and nothing is standing out as being off but racemenu patches caught my eye. Eternie offered great advise. You might have to disable body/hair mods one by one to trouble this or disable them all, see if it corrected them add them back in one at a time.

Okay, thanks, I'm glad to read this ^^
Ok, I'll do that (but I won't have the time for this until Sunday so I won't give any update until then.

Originally posted by Corinze:
As for CBBE and Himbo, bodyslide sould be run for a batch build just to be sure.

English isn't my native language. What do you mean by "a batch build" ? I should reinstall it ?
Numa Thurman Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:09am 
Okay so I checked and it was Deadly Mutilations that provoked the NPCs'bodies to disappear. Thanks for your help, you'all ! :D
Originally posted by Numa Thurman:
Okay so I checked and it was Deadly Mutilations that provoked the NPCs'bodies to disappear. Thanks for your help, you'all ! :D
Ajoute moi, je vais essayer de t'aider
Numa Thurman Aug 21, 2023 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by Lin Ha Zahard:
Originally posted by Numa Thurman:
Okay so I checked and it was Deadly Mutilations that provoked the NPCs'bodies to disappear. Thanks for your help, you'all ! :D
Ajoute moi, je vais essayer de t'aider

J'ai réglé ce problème, j'ai viré Deadly Mutilations !
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Date Posted: Aug 16, 2023 @ 9:15am
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