Where can I find console ID's for the hearthfire trophy room creatures?

[emitfudd]

I am building a custom trophy room in the cellar of Heljarchen Hall. I was able to copy the trophies that I placed in Lakeview Manor trophy room with Jaxonz positioner. I have searched for hours for the console ID for the other trophies and can't find them anywhere.

Update: So I partially figured it out. I typed help trophy into the console and used player.placeatme for the id for the small trophy base and the large trophy base. They spawn correctly and even have the interaction to place a trophy on them. I tried placing a trophy for a cave bear which I had the ingredients for and it didn't place anything. Tried again with the wolf on the small base and it didn't place anything there either. This is extremely frustrating.

[emitfudd]

I came across an old article that somebody wrote instructions on how to custom decorate hearthfire homes in oldrim. It had all the ID's for the trophies but the only ones that work are the steam centurion, giant and dragon priest. The rest say compiling script not found. The ones that don't work all start with 400A, like 400A35A for a snow bear trophy. I looked at the id of the ones that I placed in the trophy room of Lakeview Manor and most of them start with 0300. I tried that in place of 400 and it still doesn't work.

Maybe another route to consider, can anybody think of a location that has animal trophies on display? I can just copy them with Jaxonz. Even a modded home would do.

[emitfudd]

Why doesn't the UESP page have ID's for these.

[Altbert]

With the Hearthfire homes a different system is used to place objects, instead of just enabling an object. I came across this problem when trying to replace a chest in Lakeview Manor. My chest became invisible, although could be interacted with. I still havne't found a solution.

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Altbert:

With the Hearthfire homes a different system is used to place objects, instead of just enabling an object. I came across this problem when trying to replace a chest in Lakeview Manor. My chest became invisible, although could be interacted with. I still havne't found a solution.

I think it's an SE thing instead of a Hearthfire thing. I didn't have this problem in oldrim.

[Altbert]

Well, I have still to figure this out, but I think it's a HF issue. If I have found a solution to my issue I will let you know.

[Ihateeverybody]

I think its because (I am in NO Way an expert) with Trophy's Display cases, Bookcases, Weapon Plaques, you can't just spawn in the Object and have it work. It needs a marker linked to it. This marker will tell the engine to put the displayed object in x,y,z position as well as likely other things like scale.

Without that marker it won't work.

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

I think its because (I am in NO Way an expert) with Trophy's Display cases, Bookcases, Weapon Plaques, you can't just spawn in the Object and have it work. It needs a marker linked to it. This marker will tell the engine to put the displayed object in x,y,z position as well as likely other things like scale.

Without that marker it won't work.

The strange part is that I CAN spawn the above mentioned items such as giant, dragon priest and steam centurion.

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by emitfudd:

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

I think its because (I am in NO Way an expert) with Trophy's Display cases, Bookcases, Weapon Plaques, you can't just spawn in the Object and have it work. It needs a marker linked to it. This marker will tell the engine to put the displayed object in x,y,z position as well as likely other things like scale.

Without that marker it won't work.

The strange part is that I CAN spawn the above mentioned items such as giant, dragon priest and steam centurion.

Using the Trophy Base or are you Spawning the Base Item of the Trophy WITH the base?. You know what, be back in a few. I have a skyrim SE game and can just check for myself.

Edit: So I spawned in the Base Hearthfire Trophy's and it didn't work. These will have a 03xxxxxxx Base ID. I have hearhfireextended Mod and spawned in those and They work fine. These will have a different base ID depending on Load Order (in my case 35xxxxxx).

If you have HFExtended thats likely why, though it could be some other mod. Check your baseID vs your load order to verify.

Edit2 in addition I didn't have those selections on HF or HFE Small or Large Bases. Legacy of Dragonborn Mod? I don't have that so can't verify.

I don't know why I keep Quoting my own posts instead of Editing. But Every other time I do.

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Originally posted by emitfudd:

The strange part is that I CAN spawn the above mentioned items such as giant, dragon priest and steam centurion.

Using the Trophy Base or are you Spawning the Base Item of the Trophy WITH the base?. You know what, be back in a few. I have a skyrim SE game and can just check for myself.

Edit: So I spawned in the Base Hearthfire Trophy's and it didn't work. These will have a 03xxxxxxx Base ID. I have hearhfireextended Mod and spawned in those and They work fine. These will have a different base ID depending on Load Order (in my case 35xxxxxx).

If you have HFExtended thats likely why, though it could be some other mod. Check your baseID vs your load order to verify.

Edit2 in addition I didn't have those selections on HF or HFE Small or Large Bases. Legacy of Dragonborn Mod? I don't have that so can't verify.

I don't know why I keep Quoting my own posts instead of Editing. But Every other time I do.

I don't have Hearthfire extended or Legacy of the Dragonborn. The ID's I used for the 3 that work are dragon priest: 10A161, giant: 108D67 and steam centurion: 10951D. Using player.placeatme for all three.

Using the trophy base to create the item doesn't work, although it does take the required items out of my inventory which sucks. I spawned the trophy bases, small and large, with the console. Not the ones that are in the actual trophy room of a hearthfire home.

[Ihateeverybody]

I am --->guessing<--- if you go to the cell for the house those ID's Corrospond too you will see them. Thats what I was talking about with markers. Markers are for a specefic place.

It makes more sense if you have ever opened the CK. You will see a bunch of stuff that isn't there in the game because its not "enabled" but its set up to be if the situation warrents it.

Edit: not that I am recommending you snooping around in the CK. At least not without backing everything up or prepared for a fresh install. Accidently moving something can have consequences. Especially if you are not aware of doing it. And its easy to do that.

[Ihateeverybody]

I think I found your Cavebear Trophy. Item 05002E9E. Looks like its from the Update ESM, but I didn't verify.

Its a Misc Item. If you do a player.placeatme command it will be there. it has 0 value, 0 weight. It can be picked up (that would be a deal breaker with me). It does NOT appear to have Physics. I have tried Manually additem to a Large (and Small) Trophy Base and it shows no difference then manually doing it with ingrediants (no Bear Appears.)

Picking it up will not add an item to inventory. I don't think it will work for what you want it too.

Edit: Actually it does have physics or Collision. I think when I spawned it I was inside it. (No Baldurs Gate 3 Jokes Please.)

Edit2: Interesting. If you targeted in console after Spawning but before picking up, you can use the moveto Player command to relocate. This actually has Potential if you can avoid picking it up on accident (manually placing items takes work as you need to be facing certain ways to avoid rotation and listing.)

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

I think I found your Cavebear Trophy. Item 05002E9E. Looks like its from the Update ESM, but I didn't verify.

Its a Misc Item. If you do a player.placeatme command it will be there. it has 0 value, 0 weight. It can be picked up (that would be a deal breaker with me). It does NOT appear to have Physics. I have tried Manually additem to a Large (and Small) Trophy Base and it shows no difference then manually doing it with ingrediants (no Bear Appears.)

Picking it up will not add an item to inventory. I don't think it will work for what you want it too.

Edit: Actually it does have physics or Collision. I think when I spawned it I was inside it. (No Baldurs Gate 3 Jokes Please.)

Edit2: Interesting. If you targeted in console after Spawning but before picking up, you can use the moveto Player command to relocate. This actually has Potential if you can avoid picking it up on accident (manually placing items takes work as you need to be facing certain ways to avoid rotation and listing.)

I use Jaxonz so moving and deleting items is not an issue. I tried player.placeatme 05002E9E and got the compiled script error. Where did you get this id?

I looked at my load order and Hearthfire is 3rd. Since trophies are added by the Hearthfire DLC I would assume I should be using 03 instead of 04 or 05 as the first numbers of the item ID. I will keep experimenting.

And the fact that I AM able to spawn things like the sabre trophy tell me that a marker is not the issue.

So 05002E9E does not work by starting with 03 or 04. I looked at the ID of the sabretooth trophy and it is 0300A8FA. I was able to spawn another one of those successfully. If I could find the damn codes I could do what I am trying to accomplish. Can't believe they are nowhere to be found.

The only solution I have come up with is to build Windstad Manor and build the trophy room and then build the trophies that I DIDN'T build in Lakeview Manor. That way I can look at their ID's or simply copy them with Jaxonz. This is ridiculous.

[Ihateeverybody]

help "Cave bear" is the console command I used. Its listed at the top as a misc item. Along with the pelt.

I just checked, 05 is Unofficial Skyrim Edition Patch in my load order. Please note I am on Game Version 1.5.97 so I have whatever patch was last released for that version.

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

help "Cave bear" is the console command I used. Its listed at the top as a misc item. Along with the pelt.

I just checked, 05 is Unofficial Skyrim Edition Patch in my load order. Please note I am on Game Version 1.5.97 so I have whatever patch was last released for that version.

This is the answer! I was reading through some of the guides and you learn something new every day. I wasn't aware you have to use "" when searching for an item with more than one word. I was typing help cavebear 0 instead of help "cave bear" 0.

I am on version 1.64 so my id was 07002E9E. Strange because other trophies like the frost troll and dwarven sphere start with 03. Anyways I have my solution. Thanks!