I Like The Progress Made For Skyblivion But...

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Why does almost everything remastered/remade nowadays have to look like your generic UE4/Unity "AAA" game? Why can't the modders of Skyblivion just make the graphics that is superior in fidelity but still keeps the same art style/atmosphere of the original?

[🖤Lyra🖤]

Because it’s made by fans who are doing the best work that they can output and aren’t financially supported as well as a Triple A studio is it’s unrealistic to expect the quality to be on the same level as Triple A studios. Furthermore skyblivion is a mod that is being developed on the creation engine which right there already limits developers who want Skyblivion to look like a next gen current game they can only push the engine so hard until it starts running into stability issues.

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Originally posted by 𒈒Asura𒈒:

Because it’s made by fans who are doing the best work that they can output and aren’t financially supported as well as a Triple A studio is it’s unrealistic to expect the quality to be on the same level as Triple A studios.

Re-read what I wrote because that's not what I'm asking nor expecting

[th]

I'd rather not speak about artistic talents. I have no such thing myself and can not judge.

But technically I can say something.

Style and atmosphere are things that partially are created by the engine. How it works, how it looks, what it does with colour, with light, what versions of what mathematical algorithms it has to produce all that and so on. So if you use another engine - I would say it would be almost impossible to reproduce all that things the same way.

What can I say. I play Morrowind exclusively using its original engine. Because it creates that same atmosphere as it did in 2002. I don't use OpenMW. I don't even use mods which add distance views. Such as MGE XE. From my point of view such mods and a new engine just totally break original feeling from the game. Game becomes some other game. It's not Morrowind anymore.

[🖤Lyra🖤]

Originally posted by eXIT~mANY~pORTRAIT~tAG:

Originally posted by 𒈒Asura𒈒:

Because it’s made by fans who are doing the best work that they can output and aren’t financially supported as well as a Triple A studio is it’s unrealistic to expect the quality to be on the same level as Triple A studios.

Re-read what I wrote because that's not what I'm asking nor expecting

You made a topic about skyblivion and you have gotten a answer for why skyblivion looks the way it does reread what I wrote the game engine can only be pushed so far until you start running into issues this applies to all game engines for any game studio but especially the creation engine which skyblivion is being built on. I have already answered your sykyblivion mod question and questions about other video games made I’m sorry that some games don’t meet your expectation when it comes to looking like a generic ue4. Not every developer for any game is able to capture the same “art style” as with new graphics a new “art style” is made

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Originally posted by 𒈒Asura𒈒:

you still haven't re-read what i wrote, bye

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by eXIT~mANY~pORTRAIT~tAG:

Originally posted by 𒈒Asura𒈒:

you still haven't re-read what i wrote, bye

Ok, I have reread your first post several times. I will try to answer you.

BECAUSE.

There you go.

Spoiler: No answer is possible. Your question is bad. You have some vision in your head about how something SHOULD be according to your expectations. We cannot see that so we have no way to explain "Where you are" let alone tell you how to get somewhere else.

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

No answer is possible. Your question is bad. You have some vision in your head about how something SHOULD be according to your expectations. We cannot see that so we have no way to explain "Where you are" let alone tell you how to get somewhere else.

I was just asking why can't they just make the mod look better than OG Oblivion without turning it into generic UE4/Unity AAA clone? It's not that hard to comprehend. Never did I ever write nor imply that Skyblivion has to be photorealistic or resemble some Pixar movie in order to push Creation engine to its limits smh.

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by eXIT~mANY~pORTRAIT~tAG:

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

No answer is possible. Your question is bad. You have some vision in your head about how something SHOULD be according to your expectations. We cannot see that so we have no way to explain "Where you are" let alone tell you how to get somewhere else.

I was just asking why can't they just make the mod look better than OG Oblivion without turning it into generic UE4/Unity AAA clone? It's not that hard to comprehend. Never did I ever write nor imply that Skyblivion has to be photorealistic or resemble some Pixar movie in order to push Creation engine to its limits smh.

It's literally just oblivion remade using Skyrim assets. The graphics are gonna be about what Skyrim is.

The mod itself is really pointless tbh, you're better off just playing oblivion.

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

It's literally just oblivion remade using Skyrim assets. The graphics are gonna be about what Skyrim is.

The mod itself is really pointless tbh, you're better off just playing oblivion.

Skyrim doesn't look nearly as colorful as Skyblivion does though, especially the 2011 version and the physics are different too.

Yeah that's what I intend to do because the cartoonish graphics and the Skyrim physics kind of ruin it for me.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Ok if you do better why don't apply to their team? Also if you don't like it don't download its as for EVERY mod

[theo]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

The mod itself is really pointless tbh, you're better off just playing oblivion.

This. Especially if you want the original style, what even is the point of playing remake

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by eXIT~mANY~pORTRAIT~tAG:

Why does almost everything remastered/remade nowadays have to look like your generic UE4/Unity "AAA" game? Why can't the modders of Skyblivion just make the graphics that is superior in fidelity but still keeps the same art style/atmosphere of the original?

talk about a sense of entitlement!
You want that kind of graphics you create a game with that kind of graphics

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Ok if you do better why don't apply to their team? Also if you don't like it don't download its as for EVERY mod

do better in what? stop strawmanning

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

Originally posted by eXIT~mANY~pORTRAIT~tAG:

Originally posted by 𒈒Asura𒈒:

Because it’s made by fans who are doing the best work that they can output and aren’t financially supported as well as a Triple A studio is it’s unrealistic to expect the quality to be on the same level as Triple A studios.

Re-read what I wrote because that's not what I'm asking nor expecting

Oh boy, you're asking loaded questions and are being snarky about it. Go take a bath, get some food and think about how to interact with others please.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by eXIT~mANY~pORTRAIT~tAG:

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Ok if you do better why don't apply to their team? Also if you don't like it don't download its as for EVERY mod

do better in what? stop strawmanning

You are asking why the skyblivion team, who incidently all volunteers doing this because they love Oblivion and Morrowind, can't produce better graphics than what they are doing.

The answer is two fold, A) because every system is different and what looks good on one computer looks rubbish on a slightly different one, and B) because they have enough work to do rebuilding the two games without pampering to the whims of people whining about how the graphics aren't good enough.

If you personally think you can improve the graphics, then apply to the skywind/skyblivion team and ask if you can help.... otherwise accept the graphics are what they are.


oh, and you do not understand what strawmanning is, because what speed wrote was not strawmanning, it was a putdown but not a strawman...