[FIXED] Hod Stuck on Lumbermill

[Tatu_Bom]

OBS: It has been fixed. The problematic mod was "Thief" from loverslab.
When I arrive at Riverwood, and Ralof goes to talk to Gerdur and calls Hod, Hod remains over the Lumbermill and doesn't walk. Sometimes he will walk into the main road of the town and be stuck there instead.

Here is the image: https://imgur.com/gallery/vNtqtVi

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[Ihateeverybody]

Target him in the console (Tilde key on US KB Layout). Type "moveto player" without quotes and enter. If you don't want to do console then you can try sprinting into him to knock him aside and hope that gets things going.

Edit: To clarify it is a Vanilla Game issue. Pathfinding AI is very finicky. It can very well be caused by script lag but its not really solvable by less mods, it will happen at some point regardless even on Vanilla Games.

Edit2: I mean, chances are just restarting the game (save and Exit, then restart and load save) will MAYBE solve the issue if it's what I think.

[Tatu_Bom]

Messaggio originale di Ihateeverybody:

Target him in the console (Tilde key on US KB Layout). Type "moveto player" without quotes and enter. If you don't want to do console then you can try sprinting into him to knock him aside and hope that gets things going.

Edit: To clarify it is a Vanilla Game issue. Pathfinding AI is very finicky. It can very well be caused by script lag but its not really solvable by less mods, it will happen at some point regardless even on Vanilla Games.

Edit2: I mean, chances are just restarting the game (save and Exit, then restart and load save) will MAYBE solve the issue if it's what I think.

I have tried the command, but Hod simply ignores the conversation when Gerdur calls him. He doesn't attempt to meet with Gerdur and Ralof.

[Tatu_Bom]

Messaggio originale di Ihateeverybody:

Edit2: I mean, chances are just restarting the game (save and Exit, then restart and load save) will MAYBE solve the issue if it's what I think.

I have done that a lot of times while trying to troubleshoot. The problem is that disabling some mods just makes my save file corrupt and unloadable.

[Ihateeverybody]

You really do not want to disable mods and play that save forward (in case you don't already know.). You have a lot of mods I am not familiar with.

I guess the only option is resting inside a cell and seeing if he resets. I would do it from a save before coming to Riverwood no closer then embershard (even if Ralof goes ahead, the scene should start playing once you reach the walls).

Thats the only thing I can suggest at this point.

[alexander_dougherty]

Messaggio originale di Tatu_Bom:

Messaggio originale di Ihateeverybody:

Target him in the console (Tilde key on US KB Layout). Type "moveto player" without quotes and enter. If you don't want to do console then you can try sprinting into him to knock him aside and hope that gets things going.

Edit: To clarify it is a Vanilla Game issue. Pathfinding AI is very finicky. It can very well be caused by script lag but its not really solvable by less mods, it will happen at some point regardless even on Vanilla Games.

Edit2: I mean, chances are just restarting the game (save and Exit, then restart and load save) will MAYBE solve the issue if it's what I think.

I have tried the command, but Hod simply ignores the conversation when Gerdur calls him. He doesn't attempt to meet with Gerdur and Ralof.

target him in the console
use the resetAI command

Another option is to target him in the console, and use the disable command followed by the enable command.
This does essentially the same thing as the resetAI command but sometimes works when resetAI does not.

[Tatu_Bom]

Messaggio originale di Ihateeverybody:

You really do not want to disable mods and play that save forward (in case you don't already know.). You have a lot of mods I am not familiar with.

I guess the only option is resting inside a cell and seeing if he resets. I would do it from a save before coming to Riverwood no closer then embershard (even if Ralof goes ahead, the scene should start playing once you reach the walls).

Thats the only thing I can suggest at this point.

Fixed it by disabling a mod. It was "Thief" from loverslab.

[Tatu_Bom]

Messaggio originale di alexander_dougherty:

Messaggio originale di Tatu_Bom:

I have tried the command, but Hod simply ignores the conversation when Gerdur calls him. He doesn't attempt to meet with Gerdur and Ralof.

target him in the console
use the resetAI command

Another option is to target him in the console, and use the disable command followed by the enable command.
This does essentially the same thing as the resetAI command but sometimes works when resetAI does not.

Fixed it by disabling a mod. It was "Thief" from loverslab.

[alexander_dougherty]

Messaggio originale di Tatu_Bom:

Messaggio originale di alexander_dougherty:

target him in the console
use the resetAI command

Another option is to target him in the console, and use the disable command followed by the enable command.
This does essentially the same thing as the resetAI command but sometimes works when resetAI does not.

Fixed it by disabling a mod. It was "Thief" from loverslab.

You need to revert to a save made before you installed that mod, otherwise the data from the mod, which is baked into saves, will cause issues.