Oblivion as an 80's dark fantasy film

[deadbringer92]

Oblivion as an 80's dark fantasy film, rendered with ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcelYNe2Tpk&t=37s&ab_channel=AdAstrART

[psychotron666]

引用自 sdack：

引用自 psychotron666：

Looks to me like that AI used 80s movies, not lord of the rings.

Or perhaps the AI does not have a sense of humour and is depressed, which is another way to describe the 80's.

It was because everyone was doing cocaine all the time, so when they weren't high life was depressing.

[th]

引用自 psychotron666：

引用自 th：

Yes, I just don't talk about what I don't know much. I repeat my point is that such cloaks don't look authentic as The Elder Scrools Universe content. I never said that "80s" is a wrong word in the name of that youtube video. I said that "Oblivion" word is.

Yeah but the AI was directed to make oblivion in the style of 80s fantasy movies. Looks like it did it pretty well to me. The guards armour and helmets look like a 1980s adaptation of oblivion guard armour - as in the 80s they never followed the source material that closely and took many liberties in adaptations.

It did ok all parts except Oblivion part. Even those cats look far from khajiits. Isn't it stylistically obvious?

There is a lot of "fantasy" style. More or less "dark" content. And it indeed looks very old schoolish. But Oblivion is totally absent. Those cats look more like some cat people from the Star Wars Univers.

[theo]

引用自 th：

引用自 theo：

Tolkien universe doesn't have particular visual designs for cloaks, architecture or anything else, this is just the look of retro fantasy aesthetic which is the point of this video

Don't start to discuss canon with me coz I had zero intentions to do it.

But those cloaks look exactly like those which from famous 3 movies The Lord of The Rings. So it is obvious that those 3 movies were used as a train material for this neural network. That's the only thing I was talking about. Such cloaks were in those movies. It's a fact. There is nothing to be disagree about. Whether it's canon or not in this univers is not my point.

I just wanted to point out that it's not the best material to use as a train big data for a neural network which is supposed to generate The Elder Scrolls Universe content. That is all.

These as well can be just generic 'medieval' cloaks you're going to see in any medieval or fantasy movie from the 80s. Then aside from these cloaks there's costumes, makeup and practical effects typical only to the 80s which this video captured as well.
Where's Oblivion in that? Well that's the point, that any setting was going to look like this in the 80s, and there was just one way to make cat people - 'like in Star Wars'
Makes me think how much fantasy genre is limited by current aesthetic norms. Wasn't it annoying how few years ago in every fantasy or medieval fiction work characters wore undercuts and man buns

[psychotron666]

引用自 th：

引用自 psychotron666：

Yeah but the AI was directed to make oblivion in the style of 80s fantasy movies. Looks like it did it pretty well to me. The guards armour and helmets look like a 1980s adaptation of oblivion guard armour - as in the 80s they never followed the source material that closely and took many liberties in adaptations.

It did ok all parts except Oblivion part. Even those cats look far from khajiits. Isn't it stylistically obvious?

There is a lot of "fantasy" style. More or less "dark" content. And it indeed looks very old schoolish. But Oblivion is totally absent. Those cats look more like some cat people from the Star Wars Univers.

To me they look exactly like a kahjiit if it was adapted for live action in the 80s, made with puppetry like the labyrinth movie.

The dude with the funky hair makes me think of adoring fan, adapted as a live action 80s fantasy.

[th]

You both are right. I repeat once again. There are a lot of "80s" and "fantasy" in there but a little of "Oblivion". So the AI is good. Big data was obviously really big and appropriate too. But "The Elder Scrolls" part of that big data was really small or even nothing at all.

I may name a really short list of "Oblivion features" there. And any of these features will be far from obvious canon. Some architecture looks a little like The Imperial City indeed. But with huge additions from Tolkien Univers (The Lord of the Rings movies and Hobbit movies) and from Star Wars Univers. The "cat people" who don't look like khajiits at all. Basically the only part here which is authentic is that they are cats. Well, yes, some metal armor. A little. Style is different. Not very "TES" I would say.

Those orcs are from Warcarft Universe. Or may be Warhammer. They look far from TES orcs.

All the elves are clearly from Tolkien Universe.

Most of the architecture are from Tolkien Universe and Star Wars.

There are also a lot of other movies I can't recognize but yes, it is obvious that all of them are really old school.

We don't have such movies for The Elder Scrolls Universe. So where did they get big data for train this AI? Fan art? You need millions of such fan art pictures to create a big data large enough to train an AI on it. I doubt they have it. I guess they took pretty standard fantasy-like big data based on movies and made an AI based on it. And then just manually adjusted some stuff a little to look like Oblivion. Of course the result is not that good from The Elder Scrolls Universe canon point of view.

[theo]

引用自 th：

So where did they get big data for train this AI? Fan art?

Based on the 'Adoring Fan' picture I'd assume these are just screenshots from Oblivion processed by AI to look like 80s

[th]

引用自 theo：

引用自 th：

So where did they get big data for train this AI? Fan art?

Based on the 'Adoring Fan' picture I'd assume these are just screenshots from Oblivion processed by AI to look like 80s

I thought like that too initially. But if it were really screenshots I would say they must look much more authentic. So I doubt that.

[Yellowbeard]

Noice...quite refreshing to see sci-fi, fantasy, or a video game without a cartoony colour palette. Damn you Borderlands...damn you for seemingly starting the 'pastel' colour and in turn writing trend that has been turning away the mature members of society from the 3 things that used to passively center the Overton wIndow. LOL...

"'Dark'...you can just say 'natural'." - Sterling Archer

[th]

引用自 Yellowbeard：

"'Dark'...you can just say 'natural'." - Sterling Archer

I would say "realistic".

[psychotron666]

From the AI art generator that I use, it seems they aren't "trained" on anything. You type in phrases of what you want and it uses the internet to learn on the fly and generate it for you. What you generate is as good as how you word it to the AI. Sometimes it'll mix things together like one I did "Jesus and Mr T fighting hordes of demons" and it merged them together and created a fusion of Mr T and Jesus as one person battling hordes of demons.

[Yellowbeard]

引用自 th：

引用自 Yellowbeard：

"'Dark'...you can just say 'natural'." - Sterling Archer

I would say "realistic".

lol...was going to say that...changed it in an attempt to avoid the standard knee-jerk feedback 'It's fantasy not real!'.