The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Asenath 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 9:59
Is Akatosh the same as Auri-El?
Gelebor saying Auriel, Auri-El, Alkosh, Akatosh... so many different names for the sovereign of the snow elves. so is akatosh the same god as Auri-El? if so I am guessing seeing that the snow elves came first before the nords and imperials that this god is originally a snow elf if so how did he become a dragon as seen in imperial city as akatosh also seen in daggerfall if I can remember?
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theo 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:04 
Auri-El never was an elf. Nords, imperials, elves and khajiit worship same pantheon of aedric gods under different names since the birth of the universe, except for Talos who's appeared recently
Asenath 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:10 
引用自 theo
Auri-El never was an elf. Nords, imperials, elves and khajiit worship same pantheon of aedric gods under different names since the birth of the universe, except for Talos who's appeared recently
Talos in oblivion reminded me of a saint not a god and many catholics worship saints as if they are gods so elder scrolls talos reminds me of this,So the elf statue in front of the chantry is just a snow elf not depicted as Auri-El if it is then I am guessing that his true form is a dragon and the snow elves thought he was a snow elf?
最後修改者:Asenath; 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:14
theo 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:17 
Elves believe aedric gods are literally their ancestors, and either way they have to depict gods somehow
Asenath 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:24 
引用自 theo
Elves believe aedric gods are literally their ancestors, and either way they have to depict gods somehow
I am guessing the daedra are based on demons?
theo 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:24 
引用自 DigitalChaos
Talos in oblivion reminded me of a saint not a god and many catholics worship saints as if they are gods so elder scrolls talos reminds me of this
Yeah I suppose that's true.
And since you've mentioned Oblivion, there on churches windows all divines have human appearance, even Akatosh. So it's just a conventional thing

引用自 DigitalChaos
引用自 theo
Elves believe aedric gods are literally their ancestors, and either way they have to depict gods somehow
I am guessing the daedra are based on demons?
Roughly speaking, yes
最後修改者:theo; 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:40
Asenath 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:38 
引用自 theo
引用自 DigitalChaos
Talos in oblivion reminded me of a saint not a god and many catholics worship saints as if they are gods so elder scrolls talos reminds me of this
Yeah I suppose that's true.
And since you've mentioned Oblivion, there on churches windows all divines have human appearance, even Akatosh. So it's just a conventional thing

引用自 DigitalChaos
I am guessing the daedra are based on demons?
Roughly speaking, yes
I don't think all of the elder scrolls pantheon were human just talos he is not a true god he was more like a saint is what I meant to say so I kind of agree with the thalmor about banning the false pantheon talos as in real life saints aren't gods and should not be worshiped as gods.
theo 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:44 
Exactly, they weren't, at least because the original eight divines predate any mortal races. It's just an artistic choice to depict them like that

An in game book The Monomyth explains the issue more or less
Rez Elwin 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 10:55 
Auri-El is Akatosh yes, different name the same being. They are neither elvish or Dragons, they can appear as they wish, they have existed before Nirn was even created, aside from Talos anyway.

To get really specific the words "Aedra" and "Deadra" are elvish, the name for these being is Et'Ada and they were exactly the same before the creation of Nirn. The vast majority left this plane with Magnus and created the Sun and Stars. The ones who were tricked by Lorkhan to create Nirn and lose most of their power are the 8 divines, the Deadra did not do so an as such retained their power.

Aedra Means "Our Ancestors" and Deadra means "Not Our Ancestors". It's why the Thalmor hate Talos, they refuse to accept him, a man and an ancestor of the Mer.
Asenath 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 11:01 
引用自 Rez Elwin
Auri-El is Akatosh yes, different name the same being. They are neither elvish or Dragons, they can appear as they wish, they have existed before Nirn was even created, aside from Talos anyway.

To get really specific the words "Aedra" and "Deadra" are elvish, the name for these being is Et'Ada and they were exactly the same before the creation of Nirn. The vast majority left this plane with Magnus and created the Sun and Stars. The ones who were tricked by Lorkhan to create Nirn and lose most of their power are the 8 divines, the Deadra did not do so an as such retained their power.

Aedra Means "Our Ancestors" and Deadra means "Not Our Ancestors". It's why the Thalmor hate Talos, they refuse to accept him, a man and an ancestor of the Mer.
That sounds much like our got and the fallen angel satan only difference is in elder scrolls version our got is the aedra/eight divines and the fallen angel satan is the dardra it's interesting lore.
Rez Elwin 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 11:29 
引用自 DigitalChaos
That sounds much like our got and the fallen angel satan only difference is in elder scrolls version our got is the aedra/eight divines and the fallen angel satan is the dardra it's interesting lore.

That is how most mortals view them. The Aedra are good and gods, were as the Deadra are bad and Demons, but it's not all that simple. Their spheres of influence affects their actions in some way. Molag Bal for example tried to conquer Nirn several times, not out of a malicious nature but his nature is domination. Who is to say how the Aedra would behave if they could interact with Nirn in the same way.

Akatosh didn't send the Dragonborn to save the world out of the good of his heart, he needed to stop Alduin because he wasn't doing his job, and since he cannot directly interfere he created a Dragonborn to do it.
peppermint hollows 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 11:30 
引用自 DigitalChaos
引用自 theo
Yeah I suppose that's true.
And since you've mentioned Oblivion, there on churches windows all divines have human appearance, even Akatosh. So it's just a conventional thing


Roughly speaking, yes
I don't think all of the elder scrolls pantheon were human just talos he is not a true god he was more like a saint is what I meant to say so I kind of agree with the thalmor about banning the false pantheon talos as in real life saints aren't gods and should not be worshiped as gods.

Talos is a god and a saint. You even meet a physical embodiment/avatar of Talos in Morrowind, an NPC named Wulf. He gives you a lucky coin which automatically gives you a greater power named "Luck of The Emperor."
Valden21 2022 年 11 月 23 日 上午 11:54 
To the OP's question, yes, Auriel and Akatosh are the same god, just filtered through different cultural views. Auriel, Auri-El, Akatosh, Alkosh: four names, one deity.
alexander_dougherty 2022 年 11 月 23 日 下午 12:02 
引用自 DigitalChaos
引用自 theo
Elves believe aedric gods are literally their ancestors, and either way they have to depict gods somehow
I am guessing the daedra are based on demons?
Demons and Djinn
alexander_dougherty 2022 年 11 月 23 日 下午 12:04 
Akatosh is Aur-iel is Anu-iel....
Rez Elwin 2022 年 11 月 23 日 下午 1:19 
引用自 alexander_dougherty
Akatosh is Aur-iel is Anu-iel....

Not quite, Anuiel is the "soul" of Auriel but they are not the same thing. Anuiel is of the of the direct forces responsible for creating the et'ada, the other being Sithis.
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